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Old 09-06-2008, 07:03 AM   #1 (permalink)
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ZenSpeed Adapter Blowout Sale

Hey Gang,

We just got another batch of our 3 to 5 lug adapters, and so I wanted to give my fellow SCOA folks a deal. Through the end of September, we're dropping to price to $270 a set for anyone who mentions the SCOA forum while ordering. (Plus shipping)

For additional info just see our website at index

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Old 09-06-2008, 04:42 PM   #2 (permalink)
 
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How bout $200 shipped? I will buy today.
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Old 09-06-2008, 06:02 PM   #3 (permalink)
 
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I think ZenSpeed has a great idea, though timing is everything.

Two months ago, only a couple nice looking 3-lug wheels were available and they cost over $2500.

NOW there are 6 or more becoming available under $1500 from Canada and Europe. Brabus Monoblock VI Replica and Schmidt to name a few.

Tigerwong58 said the ride is very harsh with his Lorinser 17s, and so the 16s that I just listed are becoming the wheel comprise of looks vs ride quality. Since they come as 3-lug already, then the adapters are not needed. And they are wide enough that not even spacers are needed.

When factoring in the bad US economy, then that's where ZenSpeed needs to make a decision. Their product is surely for the exclusive 17" market that does not mind a really harsh ride and wants to save $500 by getting a Lorinser/Brabus/etc replica. Though they must act quickly to set a profitable price point.

I am not sure what their expenses are though it should be looked at carefully before it is too late.
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Old 09-07-2008, 07:07 PM   #4 (permalink)
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How bout $200 shipped? I will buy today.
Sorry, I'd be losing money at that price. $270 is a great deal, and one that frankly won't last forever.

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Old 09-07-2008, 09:38 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I think ZenSpeed has a great idea, though timing is everything.

Two months ago, only a couple nice looking 3-lug wheels were available and they cost over $2500.

NOW there are 6 or more becoming available under $1500 from Canada and Europe. Brabus Monoblock VI Replica and Schmidt to name a few.

Tigerwong58 said the ride is very harsh with his Lorinser 17s, and so the 16s that I just listed are becoming the wheel comprise of looks vs ride quality. Since they come as 3-lug already, then the adapters are not needed. And they are wide enough that not even spacers are needed.

When factoring in the bad US economy, then that's where ZenSpeed needs to make a decision. Their product is surely for the exclusive 17" market that does not mind a really harsh ride and wants to save $500 by getting a Lorinser/Brabus/etc replica. Though they must act quickly to set a profitable price point.

I am not sure what their expenses are though it should be looked at carefully before it is too late.

Thanks for your post, and for the opportunity to respond to some of the points you raise in it.

While it's true that the aftermarket is starting to make some native 3 lug wheels available, the selection of styles and sizes is still extremely limited, and for the most part very expensive. Our adapters open up a world of possibilities that simply aren't available in native 3 lug wheels, including extremely high quality (and comparatively cheap) OEM Mercedes alloys. The 5x112 pattern we use has been used by Mercedes, Audi and VW for a long time, and there are literally thousands of wheels, both OEM and Aftermarket available.

Our adapters allow you to fit your choice of 15"-18" wheels, not "only 17's" as you contend. I personally think that 17's look best on the Fortwo, but if 16's are your thing our adapters will work just fine. Maybe some old school Pie-tin OEM 15's off an old 300D? Again, no problem.

My personal car is on 17" C-Class wheels, on Pirellis, and it rides excellently. I'm not sure why your friend is having harshness problems with his wheels, but it's definitely not typical of all 17's. Perhaps he should check his tire pressure? The installer may have cranked them up to set the beads and then forgot to adjust them back down??

Regarding our price point, at $300 for a full set they're regularly $100 less than adapters offered by other vendors here on the SCOA, and we've knocked them down to $270 for SCOA folks for the month of September. They're made of the absolutely best materials available (Alcoa T6061-6511 billets, machined to exacting tolerances on CNC equipment, with hardware and comprehensive instructions. Considering the costs associated with low-volume production and top quality billet materials (not cast junk) I think our adapters are an excellent value.

Thanks for your interest,

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Old 09-07-2008, 10:18 PM   #6 (permalink)
 
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$270 for all 4 adapters?

Can you save a lazy guy from looking up the width specs on them?

Or give an Idea of typical 16" or 17" wheel offset required when using your adapters
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Old 09-07-2008, 11:38 PM   #7 (permalink)
 
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3-5 adapters fit 450?

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Hey Gang,

We just got another batch of our 3 to 5 lug adapters, and so I wanted to give my fellow SCOA folks a deal. Through the end of September, we're dropping to price to $270 a set for anyone who mentions the SCOA forum while ordering. (Plus shipping)

For additional info just see our website at index

Cheers,

Johnny
Hi Johnny,

Will these adapters also fit the smart fortwo 450? That's a great price!

Sincerely,
Bil Gladstone
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Old 09-07-2008, 11:59 PM   #8 (permalink)
 
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Bil G...yes they will but the 450 has a much different offset ratio front to rear vs the 451... that said adapting 3x112.5 to 5x 112.5 is same for all smarts... you just need to be crafty to get the right offset 5 lug rims

Evilution...AKA Kane has real good info on this at his site

Look him up he is supporting vendor here at SCoA
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Old 09-08-2008, 12:32 AM   #9 (permalink)
 
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Hi Fred,

Thanks for the info! Yes, I've known Kane for about three years and we message one another occasionally.

Looking on his adapter page HERE he shows front and rear adapters, front 20mm thick and rear 50mm. This is to allow using 4 MB (or other) wheels all of the same offset.

Are the ZenSpeed adapters the same thickness as shown there?
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Old 09-08-2008, 06:56 AM   #10 (permalink)
 
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I have not cruised the Zen web site... but sounds to me that his adapters are all same width... if that is true then to use rims of same width on 450 the front and rear sets will have different offsets... our 451s are real close in offset from the factory so using adaptes all with same width only requires one offset calculation
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