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Old 10-30-2009, 08:09 AM   #51 (permalink)
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That looks good. did you have to take apart the steering column to mount it via the bolts?

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Old 10-30-2009, 10:14 AM   #52 (permalink)
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You need to run that white cable under the dash. The Economeater looks good
The white cable is my aux cable. Its long, so I just run it from the dash box to that defrosting vent when I'm not using it. It's just for my ipod, nothing permanent...
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Old 10-30-2009, 10:37 AM   #53 (permalink)
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That looks good. did you have to take apart the steering column to mount it via the bolts?
Yes, I first removed the screw that holds the OBD II port to the dash. I then removed the dash screw that is immediately next to that one. Following that dash piece all the way to the door, I removed the remaining screws on that side of the dash. After that, I removed the single screw that holds the driver side grey "boomarang" trim piece. Taking those screws out, and removing the "boomarang" gave me just enough room to pull the dash so that I could route the OBD II plug through the steering column and straight down through the dash. The bottom piece of the steering column plastic just pulls off downward. The top piece has two screws that must be removed before it comes off. Those two screws are visible if you look up at the steering column from the floorboard, with the bottom piece removed. The screws go through the metal piece, and they are approx 4 inches apart. I used a box cutter to cut the plastic piece of the steering column cover, so the cable can run neatly through.

side note- I screwed the ecometer in through the top piece of the column cover. I just eye balled it and screwed them in from the back side of the top piece. I wanted it to be secured well...
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Old 11-26-2009, 12:11 PM   #54 (permalink)
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I'm up the 82 now for my efficiency setting.

http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?k...Dei15Wnc&hl=en
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Old 01-21-2010, 05:49 PM   #55 (permalink)
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I'm not having good luck. Please see my spreadsheet. I can't get accurate readings no matter what efficiency number I put device level too.
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It would be nice to hear from other ēcometer users. What EFF setting are you guys using. This thread kind of seems like it's dead. Please feed the zombie thread.

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I hooked mine up at the end of November and let it run for three months to minimize the variations in fillups, temperature, etc. Ended up setting EFF to 87 (44.7 calculated average mpg versus 38.9 measured).
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I have had my ecometer installed for something over 6000 miles now and I've picked an efficiency setting of 83%. Each ecometer efficiency setting has been measured against actual average mileage for about 1100-1300miles. Cumulative fuel used vs. total miles traveled provided the data for actual mpg; the ecometer was not zeroed out for the duration of the test segment. Individual fill-up variations/calculation vs. incremental ecometer readings would typically show fairly significant differences in results. The purpose of the extended longer test period was to rule out the effect of those shorter fill-up calculations.

The ecometer can only be adjusted in single percentage steps, e.g. 81%, 82%, 83%. My overall calculations revealed that the optimal setting for my particular vehicle would have been 82.5% but that was not a number that could be input, so I settled on 83%. With a setting of 82% my ecometer read about 0.3-0.5 mpg below actual fuel usage calculations; a setting of 83% yields an ecometer reading about the same amount of 0.3-0.5 mpg above actual fuel usage. Picking 82% vs. 83% was based primarily on impressing random smart looky-loos with a bit better mileage showing on the ecometer. Keep in mind that changes in rims/tires which result in different rolling diameters could be expected to alter the efficiency number required for some other vehicle. I am running 16” tires on my smart, but the rolling diameter is within 1% of the stock tire and wheel combination. In that the ecometer does all of it’s calculations from information coming through the OBD port, it could not be expected to know about changes to wheel/tire combinations. Your efficiency input might vary from mine.

You should not be expecting the ecometer to show you absolutely precise mpg numbers any more than you could claim 100% accuracy from individual fill-up calculations. I don’t find any problem with readings that are plus or minus 0.5 mpg.
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Thanks for the photos of the ecometer installs... I'm still contemplating where to put mine. Currently I have it resting in the forward-most cup holder, angled up for view. Of course I need to look down to see it so it isn't in my peripheral vision (possibly the best way to get the most out of the ring of LEDs).

The cup holder is ideal for an unexpected reason - my 6yo boy enjoys the smart as much as I do, and often runs copilot. He thrills being able to keep an eye on the ecometer and yelling out "two oranges dad!" or "whew, all greens"

My final perm mount will need to be somewhere that I can have it in my field of view (for work commutes) and where he can see it easily (for evening and weekend runabouts).
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Installed my Ecometer today, it sits on the left side between the steering wheel and the dash. Many thanks to all who povided pics ad for the install info re the routing of the cable . All worked out perfectly. Thanks agin John
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