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Old 01-12-2008, 06:13 PM   #41 (permalink)
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last 6 digets 84954
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Old 01-12-2008, 08:03 PM   #42 (permalink)
 
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You are correct, I can't count. Should have been 084954
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OK folks, the VIN speculation is getting out of control here. The breakdown of the VIN does NOT define the body or tridion color, the trim level (pure or passion) and not if it's a CA emisions car.

Here is a definitive breakdown thanks to Mike T of the CsC forum in Canada:

Take this VIN as an example WMEEJ31X58K093000

The WME is the world manufacturer code for smart

The E is code for the 451

The J is for the coupé, it would be K is for cabriolet

The 31 is for 52 kW (70 SAE Net HP) engine

The X is a code for safety equipment, but I am not sure what it is (maybe front+ side airbags with pretensioners in seatbelts)

The next digit is the "checksum"

The next digit is the model year (8 = 2008)

The K is the assembly building at Hambach

The last 6 digits are the serial number, which is sequential in a global sense, meaning European, Canadian and US smarts are all numbered on the same system. So 093000 is the 93 thousandth 451 ever built.

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Old 01-12-2008, 08:34 PM   #44 (permalink)
 
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083108 arrived at Baltimore on Jan 10th
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Old 01-13-2008, 11:04 AM   #45 (permalink)
 
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... The E is code for the 451

The J is for the coupé, it would be K is for cabriolet

The 31 is for 52 kW (70 SAE Net HP) engine

The X is a code for safety equipment, but I am not sure what it is ...
thanks, this is the info i was looking for.


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Old 01-13-2008, 07:04 PM   #46 (permalink)
 
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98614, like it makes any difference. We're getting them, that's all that matters!
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Old 01-13-2008, 07:12 PM   #47 (permalink)
 
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Simple - the last six digits are sequential numbers in order of manufacture. See your dealer to find out the LETTER code for model year. It is generally not a number.
Take my word for it, the "8" in our VIN is the model year. That place in the VIN code is reserved for the year code.
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Old 01-13-2008, 07:13 PM   #48 (permalink)
 
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How to Decode a VIN

When decoded, the VIN tells the country and year of manufacture; make, model and serial number; assembly plant; and in some cases it even identifies equipment specifications.

The system goes something like this: sequence for characters is first A to Z, then 1 to 9, and last 0. The letters "I", "O" and "Q" are typically omitted from system.

The vehicle identification number is divided into four parts:

* World Manufacturer's Identification (WMI - three characters)
* Vehicle Description Section (VDS - five characters)
* The VIN Accuracy Check Digit
* Vehicle Identification Section (VIS - eight characters)

World Manufacturer’s Identification (WMI)

The first character in the WMI sequence represents the country where the vehicle was manufactured. Countries like the United States (1 or 4), Canada (2) and Mexico (3) are represented by numbers while other countries such as Germany (W), Italy (Z) and Japan (J) are represented by letters.

The second character refers to the manufacturer. The characters can be either letters or numbers. For example: Jaguar (A), Dodge (B), Chrysler (C), Jeep (J), Buick (4), Cadillac (6) or Saturn (8).

The third character represents the vehicle type or manufacturing division.
Vehicle Description Section (VDS) and Check Digit

The vehicle description section consists of five characters (the 4th to 8th characters) which identify everything from the body style, engine type, and braking system to model, series, restraint system, etc. The 9th character is a VIN accuracy check digit which verifies the previous VIN numbers. It is determined by carrying out a mathematical computation developed by the Department of Transportation (DOT).
Vehicle Identification Section (VIS)

The vehicle identification section includes the last eight characters in the VIN number. The numbers identify the model year (10th character) and the assembly plant for the vehicle (11th character). A number or letter may represent the model year. For example: 1998 (W), 2000 (Y), 2007 (7) or 2008 (8).

The 12th to 17th characters are the actual serial number of the vehicle—these last 6 digits make the vehicle unique (think of DNA). It can also help to identify whether the vehicle was the first, the hundredth, or the last vehicle off the manufacturer’s assembly line. This is valuable information for collectors.

So, the next time you see that long number printed on your registration papers or stamped across your dashboard, you’ll know how to decode it. This will give you a better understanding of where your unique vehicle actually came from!

Thanks for the long version of what I already said.
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OK guys, you just taught me how to figure out what reservation # I am and now I see you've already figured out your VIN#. How is that?

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OK guys, you just taught me how to figure out what reservation # I am and now I see you've already figured out your VIN#. How is that?

Beth
Your dealer will have your VIN on the paperwork they received from smart if your car is due very soon. Once they get the computer system going, your VIN will be known after the car is out of production at the factory.
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