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Thumbs up Yep, Gonna Need New Rear Tires...

...Before my lease ends. And it's my fault. I can technically baby the tires and bring them back in without changing them. But...

I can't help myself. I'm 3,000 miles into this smart EV and I'm hard launching, accelerating into turns, ducking and dodging between other vehicles, and out-maneuvering any other car on the road that I can just because I can. Brief peel-outs until the ASR kicks in is worth it.

The rear tires are going to be the sacrifice. Hey, I'm chalking up the $200 extra expense to having fun.
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So is that advantage ICE, longer tire life as you can't break the tires loose on acceleration...

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AFAIK - You don't break loose in the ED either. The smart rep encouraged me to do a full throttle start in the ED when I was testing it. Other than the immediate rush of power it didn't do a thing to those rear tyres.

However, the Continentals are crap anyway. 19k of spirited driving and mine were almost ready to be set out to pasture.
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AFAIK - You don't break loose in the ED either. The smart rep encouraged me to do a full throttle start in the ED when I was testing it. Other than the immediate rush of power it didn't do a thing to those rear tyres.

However, the Continentals are crap anyway. 19k of spirited driving and mine were almost ready to be set out to pasture.
The Conti's are EXCELLENT!!! Whatchyootalkin'boutNEON??

They have superb grip in rainy weather and dry weather. They're the best rain/dry tire available on smarts IMO. They're awful in snow, but that's the tradeoff. It's a great Summer tire.

The ESP will let you chirp tires before kicking in. You can also get the tires to skid on aggressive turns.
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For some reason, and I can't prove this, but, it seems to me that either my smart car driving skill has improved, OR, the ESP is a little less aggressive on the 2013+ smarts. I've been able to get the tires to slightly chirp and ESP to behave a little less aggressively going into turns.

Or, it could just be a mental thing with me. Keep in mind though, my Pure is an '09 and my BRABUS is also an '09. The ESP on those seems hyper aggressive, while the '13's/'14's seem to allow a little (slightly) more fun IMO...
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The Conti's are EXCELLENT!!! Whatchyootalkin'boutNEON??
Whoops, I need to get better at being descriptive!

My Contis had no problem ripping me around curves, taking me across light snow, gripping in the rain, and dealing with a 19-20 year old with a need for speed.

What they sucked at was wearing. They were below 50% at only 19k. My Kumhos still have waaaaay more than 50% and they're nearing the same mileage. Mind you, my alignment is worse now than it was when I had the Contis.

Despite that, the Kumhos suck whenever there's more than a drop of water on the road. I've had a few near misses because the Kumhos failed where the Contis would've shined. And while I used to say they were better, they really aren't better than the Contis in the snow.

During the recent "snowpocalypse" event, I gave the Kumhos a solid "F". I got stuck in snow that was literally two inches deep, stuff the Contis dealt with easily. Then on ice, the Kumhos tried to throw the arse end around, another thing the Contis never did.

That said, the Contis are too expensive and wear too much for me to even consider buying them ever again.

Next time, I'm going for Primewell (I have good experience with that brand), Yokohama, Firestone, something other than Kumho or Continental.
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Whoops, I need to get better at being descriptive!

My Contis had no problem ripping me around curves, taking me across light snow, gripping in the rain, and dealing with a 19-20 year old with a need for speed.

What they sucked at was wearing. They were below 50% at only 19k. My Kumhos still have waaaaay more than 50% and they're nearing the same mileage. Mind you, my alignment is worse now than it was when I had the Contis.

Despite that, the Kumhos suck whenever there's more than a drop of water on the road. I've had a few near misses because the Kumhos failed where the Contis would've shined. And while I used to say they were better, they really aren't better than the Contis in the snow.

During the recent "snowpocalypse" event, I gave the Kumhos a solid "F". I got stuck in snow that was literally two inches deep, stuff the Contis dealt with easily. Then on ice, the Kumhos tried to throw the arse end around, another thing the Contis never did.
Below 50% at 19,000 miles?? That's decent for a sport Summer tire!

As far as the rear end whipping out, I found that the Conti's will do that too on icy surfaces. The ESP is almost permanently on at that point preventing the car from picking up any speed... although that is necessary. And don't even think about trying to climb uphill on an icy road. You might as well shut down the road because the smart will fight its way up the hill side to side at like 5 mph's!
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Indeed! However, with the miles I now drive (how am I doing 20k a year!?!?!? :eek I need something that'll last me a little more than the Contis were aiming for.

The Kumhos are doing that...but well...the whole wet weather thing.
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Indeed! However, with the miles I now drive (how am I doing 20k a year!?!?!? :eek I need something that'll last me a little more than the Contis were aiming for.

The Kumhos are doing that...but well...the whole wet weather thing.
Grab a set of used Pure wheels from somebody and slap some Blizzacks on those rims for the Winters. You'll be pleasantly surprised.
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Now that I think about it, I would buy Blizzaks again, just not the WS60. When I had them I was underwhelmed by their dry performance. They would drive on dry ground like my Kumhos handle wet ground. And they had some pretty weak sidewalls.

But I do know that they do make higher speed, stronger winters so that's always an idea.

It was very pleasant driving them on snow. No drama, no wheelspin, the esp light didn't even flash. Genius technology considering they weren't even studded!
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