elie from 4 smartcar just called me back,he went into great detail about
all the bike rack he sells,in the instructions it says hand tighten,do not use
any tools,he said when u over do it,it will strip,and later come loose over
time,which is why a couple of miles down the road,it will become loose--
some of the complaints that i've read.he assured me that ,he will stand by
his product,with a warranty,and 10 % off,as for the long wait time
before he returned my call he apoligized and says his shop has been very busy.
so i think i will take a chance with this co.