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Old 02-19-2009, 12:50 PM   #21 (permalink)
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acetone attracts moisture from the atmosphere; when you add acetone to your tank, you are also adding water molecules.

i understand that gasoline is a volatile solvent, but many automotive plastics/rubber are designed to to withstand gasoline. unfortunately, they are not designed to withstand acetone.

anyway, good luck with your experiment...
Thanks. I know I'm taking a "risk" here, but I just have to try for myself. There is such a war out there on this issue, and there has to be a reason! I've decided to test it for myself.

By the way, how much moisture would you say is getting into the engine via the air intake? You've just got me wondering, if there might be enough collected by the acetone (to do damage) when pouring it into the tank, how much are we getting through the air by normal driving?

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Old 02-19-2009, 01:21 PM   #22 (permalink)
 
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hey guy i have a black smart 451 that i have been using acetone in for 6 months now i can to the conclusion that the way i drive is a little bit on the heavy on the gas. but i have noticed mpg gain form 28in city to 32/34 city i could be better but i drive alittle heavy on the gas. and i rarely drive on the HWY so cant say much about that.

the ratio that i use is 1oz(31ml) per every5gal added.

the car does feel different power wise and you definitely feel the power at the 3000-4500rpm peak

there are no sideffects that i came across. NONE ZERO NADA!

IT WORKS WONDER'S! try it out

by the way it has to be 100% pure ACETONE not the nailpolish kind with aloe ect...

Last edited by 16.luca; 02-20-2009 at 11:59 AM. Reason: sorry guys i mad a mistake on the ratio the one i have on my post is now correct
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Old 02-19-2009, 01:31 PM   #23 (permalink)
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hey guy i have a black smart 451 that i have been using acetone in for 6 months now i can to the conclusion that the way i drive is a little bit on the heavy on the gas. but i have noticed mpg gain form 28in city to 32/34 city i could be better but i drive alittle heavy on the gas. and i rarely drive on the HWY so cant say much about that.

the ratio that i use is 5oz(31ml) per every 1gal added.

the car does feel different power wise and you definitely feel the power at the 3000-4500rpm peak

there are no sideffects that i came across. NONE ZERO NADA!

IT WORKS WONDER'S! try it out

by the way it has to be 100% pure ACETONE not the nailpolish kind with aloe ect...
HOLY CRAP PANTS!!!
That's a 26:1 ratio! I don't think that the acetone will mix properly with the gasoline beyond 3-oz per 10-gal... That may be a little overkill...
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Old 02-19-2009, 01:33 PM   #24 (permalink)
 
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Toluene and Acetone are both very caustic and nasty substances. Toluene is used as a common paint thinner and remover. Acetone is used as a chemical cleaner, and paint remover. One example would be in the removal of adhesive on some of the window stickers. Another example to clean tools used in the process of laying up fiberglass with resin. It does a great job but evaporates quickly so you work fast. It breaks down regular rubber gloves pretty fast, so if you put much of of it in your tank do not be surprised if rubber and plastic seals and hoses begin to break down prematurely. Toluene stinks to high heaven, I do not know if it even carries the same BTU's as gasoline.
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Think I'll just stick to GASOLINE !

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I'd like to add a few thoughts. From some rather extensive reading on the internet, others have tried and tested the acetone additive. 1) Like reported earlier, it has to be the 100% pure kind that you would find at your local hardware store in the paint section. 2) The gasoline that you use irregardless of brand has to be 100% gasoline, no ethanol in the usual 10% concentration [it basically nullifies the acetone's effect] {Also note as here in MI virtually all gas have 10% ethanol added, so here it would be useless to add to the tank} 3) The mixture levels are to be extremely low like earlier stated 2 oz. per 10 gals. and finally 4) use EXTREME caution when dispensing into the tank, after all it is paint thinner and will ruin your cars nice finish. It can have an affect on plastics/rubber, but I believe the jury is still out on that as the levels are very low and need some long term testing.
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FWIW, 1 oz is approximately 30 ml. Perhaps 16.Luca made a typo with the 5 oz. thing.
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By the way, how much moisture would you say is getting into the engine via the air intake? You've just got me wondering, if there might be enough collected by the acetone (to do damage) when pouring it into the tank, how much are we getting through the air by normal driving?
Well, moisture (H2O) is released within the cylinder when burning gasoline...oxygen combining with hydrocarbons does produce H2O...obviously atmospheric H2O is drawn into the combustion chamber...but, all that H2O flows through and goes out the tailpipe...

Nonetheless, you really don't want excess water in your fuel tank, fuel pump, fuel filter, fuel injectors etc....water and fuel systems don't mix too well...the water can freeze during winter months, and in addition , water can cause unwanted corrosive side-effects within the fuel system...
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Stan Meyers , a noted genius with Hydrogen on demand units, built a hydrogen generator and installed it on a volkswagon based dune buggy and drove it cross country to prove it worked suddenly denounced al his findings and went into seclusion. His current whereabouts are unknown.... His findings are missing some key points that make this setup work at the same level he was using on his car.
There are lots of videos of him and his work on youtube.

Sounds like someone got to him...or his family and made an offer he couldn't refuse, or he did refuse and.......
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...any H2O in your tank will more likely stop your engine from running if found in great quantities...the issue is bacterial growth in the filter if it's a paper element...
... highly refined fuels do not have contaminants. It's the introduction to water due to holding tanks, fuel transfer, and condensation which allow bacteria introduction to the refined fuel. Automotive and Aviation diesel type fuels are perfect for micro-organism growth and propogation.
...This is why when someone finds a good source for racing fuel... they stick with them.

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