Ebiach or H&R springs

[2micro4u]

Ebiach or H&R springs which brand do you recommend for springs and why?
Do both lower the Smart the same amount?

[Turbo42]

Originally Posted by 2micro4u

Ebiach or H&R springs which brand do you recommend for springs and why?
Do both lower the Smart the same amount?

H&R all the way. I have them on mine. No they did not lower the same. The Eibachs only lower 0.8 all the way around and you still have huge gaps in the wheel wells. Also, they are a much harsher ride. The H&R's give you a great ride and they lower it to about an inch off of the rear tires, looks very good. No need to put the front springs in with the H&R's b/c the gaps in the wheel wells will be the exact same, with just the rear lowered and it will look excellent. Also, it will level the car out if you measure from the ground to the top of the wheel housing on both front and back it will be about a 1/4 of an inch difference. This is why you dont lower the front with the H&R's it would then make the front lower than the rear rather than equaling it out. So get the H&R's and do just the rear you will be very happy. I have a post on here just search my threads and it will show you my car lowered with the H&R's. The guy I bought them through is a great business guy his name is Darren and he works for www.wsiaz.com Give him a call

[stefano2412]

Originally Posted by babybenz

H&R all the way. I have them on mine. No they did not lower the same. The Eibachs only lower 0.8 all the way around and you still have huge gaps in the wheel wells. Also, they are a much harsher ride. The H&R's give you a great ride and they lower it to about an inch off of the rear tires, looks very good. No need to put the front springs in with the H&R's b/c the gaps in the wheel wells will be the exact same, with just the rear lowered and it will look excellent. Also, it will level the car out if you measure from the ground to the top of the wheel housing on both front and back it will be about a 1/4 of an inch difference. This is why you dont lower the front with the H&R's it would then make the front lower than the rear rather than equaling it out. So get the H&R's and do just the rear you will be very happy. I have a post on here just search my threads and it will show you my car lowered with the H&R's. The guy I bought them through is a great business guy his name is Darren and he works for www.wsiaz.com Give him a call

hello,
i was thinking about H&R springs for my car too, my intent is to get it lower, stiffen the handling a little bit AND reduce the amount of 'ducking' during gear shifting.
since you have done it already, please confirm: if you replace just the rear springs, does the car handle much differently? does it still 'dive' when you shift?
thank you!

[Turbo42]

Originally Posted by stefano2412

hello,
i was thinking about H&R springs for my car too, my intent is to get it lower, stiffen the handling a little bit AND reduce the amount of 'ducking' during gear shifting.
since you have done it already, please confirm: if you replace just the rear springs, does the car handle much differently? does it still 'dive' when you shift?
thank you!

The handling is improved a lot corners are alot better you dont feel like the car is going to tip over. Also the shiftin is fine its no where near what it was like b4 IF you want low and a nice ride go with H&R. If you want a medium drop and a harsh ride go with eibach

[2micro4u]

Sounds good I definatly want a lower drop.

[tbone28]

Originally Posted by babybenz

H&R all the way. I have them on mine. No they did not lower the same. The Eibachs only lower 0.8 all the way around and you still have huge gaps in the wheel wells. Also, they are a much harsher ride. The H&R's give you a great ride and they lower it to about an inch off of the rear tires, looks very good. No need to put the front springs in with the H&R's b/c the gaps in the wheel wells will be the exact same, with just the rear lowered and it will look excellent. Also, it will level the car out if you measure from the ground to the top of the wheel housing on both front and back it will be about a 1/4 of an inch difference. This is why you dont lower the front with the H&R's it would then make the front lower than the rear rather than equaling it out. So get the H&R's and do just the rear you will be very happy. I have a post on here just search my threads and it will show you my car lowered with the H&R's. The guy I bought them through is a great business guy his name is Darren and he works for www.wsiaz.com Give him a call

If the front H&R springs are installed, how much of a gap is there in the front fender?

[John_H]

If you want a stiffer ride than factory springs, the Eibachs are superb. I don't see a need to turn my Smart into a low-rider so lowering was not my main goal. I'm used to a sports suspension and hated the sloshing of the factory springs. I was originally going to skip the springs offered through my dealer until I rode the Smart for a while, dealing with some real motion-sickness for the first hour's worth of driving and hating the "lights up" "lights down" whenever I'd shift gears. The new springs are much better for my tastes. They're as "harsh" as my premium Z4's suspension. What's "harsh" anyway?

Not many here have tried both Eibachs and H&R springs so comparative values will be mostly based one here-say and not on direct experience.

[Turbo42]

Originally Posted by John_H

If you want a stiffer ride than factory springs, the Eibachs are superb. I don't see a need to turn my Smart into a low-rider so lowering was not my main goal. I'm used to a sports suspension and hated the sloshing of the factory springs. I was originally going to skip the springs offered through my dealer until I rode the Smart for a while, dealing with some real motion-sickness for the first hour's worth of driving and hating the "lights up" "lights down" whenever I'd shift gears. The new springs are much better for my tastes. They're as "harsh" as my premium Z4's suspension. What's "harsh" anyway?

Not many here have tried both Eibachs and H&R springs so comparative values will be mostly based one here-say and not on direct experience.

not true I have rode in one with Eibachs thats why I choose H&R. The ride was much better witht the H&R springs. Also it does not make it a low rider the smart sits really high off the ground to begin with. The H&Rs make it look very nive no where near a low rider though. I have had nothing but compliments on them so far

[mendo]

I have the Eibachs, I like them.
It did not lower too much, about an inch in the front, a bit more in the back.
I drive over some pretty rough roads through the constant construction on I-80, I noticed that on some bumps that used to bottom out the car, the new springs resist hitting the snubbers just a tad more. that is good.
One of my friends has the H&R and he bottoms out.
I don't detect much difference in the ride of either, they both are much better than the stock.
I don't think the ride is harsh.

[VinceLA]

I would think a recommendation is better evaluated if I had tried both brands on the car. I went with Eibach cos of a good deal. Installed it and driving on them ever since. I really can't compare to H&R. Only comparison is to stock springs.