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Old 06-16-2008, 02:39 PM   #1 (permalink)
 
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gimick or does it give you better MPG

Ran into this device from Moletech in the AU that looks interesting but frankly it sounds kinda gimicky. I've seen a few articiles that said they were at CES but no real world data. Has anyone heard of moletech? 20% MPG increase would be nice on any car but it could push the smart to the low 50s if true.

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Old 06-16-2008, 03:05 PM   #2 (permalink)
 
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If it sounds too good to be true....

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Old 06-16-2008, 09:14 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I'll stick with the super magnets that align the fuel molecules before they are scrambled by the spray pattern of the injection nozzel. Maybe, the turbinator that puts a vortex on the air being sucked into the intake maifold, or the slick 50 I put in the crankcase. If any of these things worked, every news agency in America would have the inventor in the studio doing interviews. The best thing I have found is to routinely run a tank of high detergent fuel through the injector system, Shell V-Power or Chevron Supreme.

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Old 06-16-2008, 09:56 PM   #4 (permalink)
 
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This sounds just as fishy as these little dumb sticker antennas they made for cell phones a while back...

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Old 06-17-2008, 04:36 AM   #5 (permalink)
 
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I remeber Mythbusters did a show about all these fuel saving gimmicks and found that all of them did nothing for increasing fuel mileage. Including the magnets.

I agree with Dave777 though because if this worked the inventors would be on the cover of Time, Popular Mechanics, and every news station.

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Old 06-17-2008, 09:48 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Ran into this device from Moletech in the AU that looks interesting but frankly it sounds kinda gimicky. I've seen a few articiles that said they were at CES but no real world data. Has anyone heard of moletech? 20% MPG increase would be nice on any car but it could push the smart to the low 50s if true.

MTECH Fuel Saver

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The sheisters, scamsters, hucksters and energy spin doctors come out in force!

Fuggedaboutit!!!!!!!
The next best thing to what we get now will be when you plug it into a wall socket and measuring mpg goes away forever! And that day is coming fast!

I am a hopeful technologist.....

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Old 06-17-2008, 10:14 AM   #7 (permalink)
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This sounds just as fishy as these little dumb sticker antennas they made for cell phones a while back...
Wait those antennae do not work? Darn... what if I put one around my fuel line? Think that will give me better fuel economy?

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Old 06-17-2008, 10:54 AM   #8 (permalink)
 
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Wait those antennae do not work? Darn... what if I put one around my fuel line? Think that will give me better fuel economy?
Perhaps a better reception on your radio lol.

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Old 06-17-2008, 11:07 AM   #9 (permalink)
 
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I remeber Mythbusters did a show about all these fuel saving gimmicks and found that all of them did nothing for increasing fuel mileage.
They did not test this device, and mythbusters has been shown to make mistakes before ;)

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Old 06-17-2008, 11:41 AM   #10 (permalink)
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BLUF* The item this thread is about is snake oil...

I gave up myth busters by about the third show in a row I watched where they used the least scientific methods possible to be funny and irrelevant... their testing of a cell phone in an airplane was especially terrible and was the last show I ever watched

But then, I am a professional in the Testing Business* so I have a distinct bias against entertainment trying to pass for empirical testing evidence

Consumer reports is a mixed bag.... I find some of their testing exceptionally good and well thought out.... Major home appliances they are real good at testing.

But when it comes to cars, and some consumer electronics things, I personally think they need to research consumer demands and expectations much better.... they frequently are wrong in their assessments of some items because they do not have a clue who the item was targeted to be sold too and what features or capabilities are expected...IMO

What every happened with Hydro 4000?

Because of what I do, I need to find out the status of our (U.S. Army) mandated by congress testing of the Hydro 4000 system

* BLUF = Bottom Line Up Front
* U.S. Army Operational Test Command (USAOTC), Test Officer

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