Introducing . . . . (Hyper Pipe Intake)

[johnjohn]

Would like to see dyno results AND intake temp #'s at throtle body, as a machinist, metal will conduct heat more than plastic will.
Numbers for a 30-60 min. run would be good.
Real world temps. ( not in shop temps) due to airflow around motor. The motor gets prety hot, and could possably get that stanles hot enough to discolor over time (I plan on having my smart for a LONG time)

[sandalscout]

Originally Posted by Godfather

Advantages over a simple silicone tube with only two clamps and a natural tendency to keep out heat?

I know that solid pipes are usually preferred due to the fact that silicone can collapse when under vacuum.

I'm not convinced that most cars generate enough vacuum for this to be an issue, but I've seen it as a response in the past. Turbo cars would make all the more sense to run solid pipes though.

[Okiesmrt]

A 1000 hp engine couldn't collapse a silicone hose attached to a K&N.

[SmartCarPerformance]

Originally Posted by forestacademy

Your engine cover looks a bit beat up. You must spend a lot of time under there

Yes, lots of time spent doing R&D.

[SmartCarPerformance]

Originally Posted by johnjohn

Would like to see dyno results AND intake temp #'s at throtle body, as a machinist, metal will conduct heat more than plastic will.
Numbers for a 30-60 min. run would be good.
Real world temps. ( not in shop temps) due to airflow around motor. The motor gets prety hot, and could possably get that stanles hot enough to discolor over time (I plan on having my smart for a LONG time)

At this time we are trying to decide whether to do a Dyno test or not. With an Intake that requires moving air makes it challenging, plus a dyno test may not create a real world situation.

I understand that metal does conduct heat but if you look the air flow hydraulics of it, the difference is minimal, especially when both the plastic pipe and stainless pipes are heat soaked. Let's take a cross section of a pipe. When the air is flowing, the velocity of the air is fastest where? At the center of the pipe. With the air traveling fast through the pipe there is less time for the air to heat up. I have seen our intake temps drop 15-20 degrees from a stop. This can happen in about 1/4 mile. This is when the engine is super hot, driving in traffic, etc.

So with our pipe being equal to the size of the throttle opening, our system is basically stabbing the throttle with cold air.

As far as the pipe material, It is made in the USA and it is stainless steel. Aluminum tends to change in color over time, not stainless. We back up our product 100%. If you are not satisfied, you can return the item.

The Hyper Pipe Intake System will be available in 2 weeks and I will be posting the price in a day or 2. You will see that the price will not be as expensive as you think.

[SmartCarPerformance]

Here are more pictures with the Black couplers and Pricing below:










Pricing:

Hyper Pipe (pipe and fittings only) = $159

ADD $30 (regular $44) Drop in Filter of your choice (K&N or aFe) = $189



ADD $50 (regular $65) Smoked Intake Scoop = $239



Entire Hyper Pipe Intake System for only $239

Shipping Included

This system is now in production and will be available in less than 2 weeks.

[SmartCarPerformance]

In response to "I got HOSED by Smart Madness":

My responses are in Bold

1. "The Silicone Hose is very durable and has very high heat resistance. A stainless Steel pipe soaks up more heat than a Silicone hose. The Cooler the incoming air, the better."

I disagree. After performing many road tests, the difference between a silicone hose and a stainless steel pipe is that the stainless steel pipe tends to get hotter just a little bit quicker. But, when cars are both heat-soaked the intake temperatures stay the same. This is why I intentionally do not advise to insulate my stainless steel pipe because everything gets heat-soaked and the intake temperature remains the same. As I mentioned before, air flow and the durability of the walls is much more important than the actual material of the pipe when it comes to this application.

2. "The Silicone Hose is a one piece solution that is durable and flexible and was specifically molded for the smart. No extra adapters, couplings or etc. "

The stainless steel pipe and the silicone hose are both easy to install.

3. "The Silicone Hose makes it very, very easy to change the filter since it is very flexible. "

Not applicable because you only clean your filter every so often.

4. "The Silicone Hose has a smooth inner side for non obstructed airflow."

The sides are smooth but the diameter of the pipe is not as consistent as the stainless steel pipe. Silicone has a tendency to be inconsistent in the diameter.

5. "Durability wise... This hose is designed to handle 5-10 times the amount of power the smart car ever put out. So, you never have to worry about how well the hose will hold up."

Stainless Steel has a great look and is not at risk for puncture.

6. "Lastly...It is also $70 less!"

The difference in price is actually $60 for the pipe and only $39 more than the "Trio". Great price for an upgrade, and to top it off it is made in the USA !!!

[Padawan]

Originally Posted by SmartCarPerformance

This pipe will not be as expensive as you think.

Originally Posted by SmartCarPerformance

Hyper Pipe (pipe and fittings only) = $159

Cisco,

I know you welcome feedback from customers (which is a great thing) and I am not trying to be disparaging. However, the pricing, in my opinion, is pretty far off the mark. If you are simply passing along production costs, it may be necessary to find a different way of manufacturing the item if you hope to sell many of them, particularly when there is a similarly functional product available for roughly half the price.

[SmartCarPerformance]

Thank you but I think the price is very affordable for the quality that you are getting. I've shaved down production costs to get this pipe at the price it is right now.

I know there is the Silicone version that is similar in function but not similar in quality.

I can only push my product so far but it really boils down to what you want and how much you want to spend. At least now the Smart community has a choice.

[SmartCarPerformance]

Ultimately, with directly competing products, the consumer will decide which pipe they want based on their preference.

I offer excellent customer service and provide consumers with high quality products. Our products are hand made in the USA. As always, we stand by our product 100%.

If you would like more information on our products feel free to call us at 951-532-7939 or email us at smartcar.performance@gmail.com