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Old 06-17-2008, 01:06 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Is this the front bar only? Do you have any specs for their bar and springs? How much larger is it compared to stock?

How are the bars "matched" to the springs? What are the specs for the springs?

Does WORKS suspension have any before and after times comparison for the bar?

Would love to get a set for stock class autocross but we can't change springs.

How about some pictures of the car showing how much lean has been reduced with their bars.



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Sorry - but I have to plug the WORKS suspension upgrade package here for those that want an off-the-shelf solution. As far as I know, it is the only adjustable swaybar/matched spring set-up for our cars. It goes on on sale June 28th at the Infineon Meet.

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Old 06-17-2008, 01:11 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Is this the front bar only? Do you have any specs for their bar and springs? How much larger is it compared to stock?

How are the bars "matched" to the springs? What are the specs for the springs?

Does WORKS suspension have any before and after times comparison for the bar?

Would love to get a set for stock class autocross but we can't change springs.

How about some pictures of the car showing how much lean has been reduced with their bars.
The official pre-order debut is at the meet on the 28th. There should be more details available by then.

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Old 06-17-2008, 01:12 PM   #13 (permalink)
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I have never heard of the "Works Suspension" before.
What information do you have on the "Works suspension"?

Is this for the 451's only or 450 Smarts?
451s only (they don't currently support the older platform).

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Old 06-17-2008, 01:20 PM   #14 (permalink)
 
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...before and after times comparison for the bar?
Would love to get a set for stock class autocross but we can't change springs...
Front tires and new holes = 3 sec/minute

$130.


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Old 06-17-2008, 11:24 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Front tires and new holes = 3 sec/minute

$130.

That sounds like a pretty good deal to me. Did you have the holes drilled by hand or with a press?

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Old 06-18-2008, 05:23 AM   #16 (permalink)
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But I suspect this modification would not impact in any way a warranty claim for shifter sticking or front hub bearing failure
sticking shifter no, suspension problems ...including the front hub bearing - probably yes! The smart warranty has several exclusions for defects associated with racing and/or installing performance/racing parts.

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Old 06-18-2008, 06:49 AM   #17 (permalink)
 
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Where my drill press is, didn't allow using it without moving it, bar hits roof, bar hits floor, grrrrr.
Would have been a lot better.
I work at a SAAB dealer. People we like get away with murder, people who don't deserve anything get as little as possible. Other makes have more or less leeway depending on the company, the rep. and the shop's reputation/average per/car rate of claim. Being nice is a plus but no guarantee.
Besides, 2 years? no big loss.

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Old 06-18-2008, 07:05 AM   #18 (permalink)
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The smart warranty has several exclusions for defects associated with racing and/or installing performance/racing parts.
Most car warranties have racing exclusions.

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Old 06-18-2008, 08:49 AM   #19 (permalink)
 
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Example:
I bought an Alfa Romeo for racing specifically with no warranty.
The rep gave me a new transaxle and a set of brake rotors.
Be nice.

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Old 06-18-2008, 09:57 AM   #20 (permalink)
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Can the bar be drilled in place?

Looks like it might be a tough drilling job in-situ. Nice, simple clever idea, though, to reduce the lean alittle bit more with no other effects on ride.
Nice job Randy!

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