Possible to swap clock pod with temp gauge?

[GoSmartGo]

Has anyone thought about swapping the redundant clock with a Temp Gauge? Like a VDO gauge?

For about $25 or so I would REALLY like a temp gauge and don't have much need for a 2nd clock. I just wonder how easily it could be installed and if it would fit.....

I just found this one from Stuart Warger. The Colors seem to match the Smart with a grey face and silver ring

http://www.namotorsports.net/detail....SWB-114-272.73

[smartune]

There is not much room in those pods, I think Evilution did something like this a while back with a set off a 450 but I'm not sure if he was successful.

[Fredvon4]

I looked into adding a temp in the clock but changed my mind... one of these days I will probably experiment with what "A" pillar three gage pods work in the smart

I want to monitor water temp, trany temp, and volts...maybe even a wide band fuel mixture gage

I prefer IssPro gages

No Virginia... no scan-Gage for me... I need glasses to see the current micro read out on the dash and another micro screen is not in the plans

[Karl Roth]

I like the clock in the pod would like to have the temp on the dash rather than outside temp. can roll down the window If I want to know that. Oil temp would even be more interesting don't need to see it all the time just know when it is warm enough to play...
karl

[Old smart]

I'm up for oil pressure and coolant temperature instead of just "Sorry, it's too late" idiot lights. The Euros get coolant temp in the dash instead of outside temp.

The outside temp may be a Transport Canada requirement or a Canadian accomodation installed on all NA 451s. Every description I've come across for a built-for-Canada vehicle notes an outside temperature gauge. Icing roads I guess.

[jwight]

If it's on the EU 451s maybe Kane can show us how its hooked up; should be possible to get the coolant temp info to the dash display.

[Karl Roth]

Originally Posted by jwight

If it's on the EU 451s maybe Kane can show us how its hooked up; should be possible to get the coolant temp info to the dash display.

That would be nice
karl

[Old smart]

The problem there is that the Euro coolant temp readout isn't numerical, it is a vertical bar graph along the whole right side of the panel (50C to 120C range).

There would have to be something to make numbers out of bars, or tap engine temperature somewhere into the outside circuitry.

[Evilution]

Unfortunately your LCD layout is totally different to ours. I would be interested to see what would happen if you fitted a Euro speedo to a US 451.

Euro cars actually do have external temperature displayed on the speedo.

The outside temperature sensor wires directly into the back of the speedo.
The coolant temperature sensor transmits the temperature to the Euro speedo via CAN bus. I'm sure it's readable on a Scangauge.
The US 451 will still have the sensor in place. My initial thought was to cut the external temperature sensor wires and wire the coolant temp sensor into the speedo.
The problem is there is far too much assumption that the voltage range of the sensor would be the same so I doubt it would work.

Euro speedo, it's worth a try.

[Fredvon4]

Kane... I conned my smart tech into letting me read the "book" they got during training while I was waiting for something

I did not have much time to study it and was not allowed to copy it

BUT back to your idea... no soap.. they had several major area function "how it works" sections with pictures of all the components, interfaces, and CAN Line A and B signalling....

I saw that many of the sensors, and different components, were identified as model specific or requiring TAN and the "other*" code to set a feature or make communicate to the SAM or the ECU**...

*Other... there are actually three other codes besides a TAN code ( maybe, more I noted 2~3 discrete coding methods in the "notes")

** ECU is used by me as a generic name we can relate to...smart does NOT use this acronym and I forget the designation they give the Main computer

Bottom line...IIRC ...the Speedo assy "cluster" is "branded" to the ECU and SAM by a code The item also and had a bunch of superscript #1/2/3 next to it's description with the mandatory micro fine print with the notes or cautions