TURBO kit is coming!

[Gilbert's]

Originally Posted by Thrilla from Manila

from what I've read regarding Magnusson-Moss Act, "This is a 1975 United States Federal Law which deals with consumer warranty coverage. It defines responsibilities for both the buyer and the seller of all consumer goods costing more than $25. A portion of this law applies to aftermarket parts and modifications and how it affects your car warranty.
For our purposes the law basically states that you have a right to use aftermarket, non-OEM parts on your car and still retain the factory warranty. However, if there is a failure and the manufacturer can show that the failure was caused by the aftermarket part, they can deny coverage.

The important thing is that your dealer cannot VOID your entire warranty just because the part is on the car. There have been cases where a dealer would tell a customer that their new car had no warranty because it had an aftermarket exhaust. Granted, the exhaust is not covered, however the rest of the car is still under the normal warranty.

The bottom line is to talk to your dealer and get their feeling about aftermarket mods. Some dealers are more prone to be ok with it than others."

You are darn right it up to you to scream at the dealer they are trying to ripoff on you.... Why smart is very unique 24/2 years were infact the standard is 36by3 years...

[BreathlessPerformance]

Our new production kit is done.

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[just_johnny]

Ernie,

What about us with the Brabus model? Exhaust wise?

[foxmajik]

Originally Posted by BreathlessPerformance

Our new production kit is done.

I don't get how a turbo kit is useful when the transmission is what is stifling the smart.

The only reason you can get a turbo charger in Europe is because many consumers won't buy a car that doesn't have a turbo. It's a small turbo with a minimal boost that is really just a token option for the Brabus line.

Additionally, the turbo setup this kit pushes is 4 to 6 lbs boost, which isn't significant. What's probably happening here is the ECU reprogram is causing the engine to perform in a way it was not meant to so it's inefficient and unsafe to the engine components.

The 3 cyl. Mitsubishi engine already puts out more than enough power for the car but it doesn't accelerate quickly because most of the torque is lost between gears.

It seems like boosting the fuel compression would only serve to damage the transmission and cause damaged seals, cracks in the manifold, advance wear on the brake pads and advance wear on the suspension components.

In short, a turbo charger and piggyback ECU or reprogram will make the engine rev really high between gears, but it won't make the car accelerate any faster because the sequential transmission can't be made to perform faster using a ECU re-flash or a piggyback ECU, so by installing this turbo kit you're just going to make your car wear out faster.

A safer and less expensive way to increase your performance would be to install a performance exhaust and a high flow short ram air intake.

[smartcar111]

but if you do the ECU/ TCM retune with an exhaust and CAI then it will last longer than any turbo and can compete easier than just an exhaust and CAI because it will take out shift lag by about 25%

[foxmajik]

Originally Posted by smartcar111

but if you do the ECU/ TCM retune with an exhaust and CAI then it will last longer than any turbo

The smart's engine is already tuned to give you the best balance of performance and reliability from the factory.

If you tune it up to make it give you more power you're reducing the effective life of the entire vehicle.

The smart is really not meant to be a tuner car. If you want a tuner, you want something like a Suburu WRX or a Lancer Evolution.

[silverbrabus]

Anybody think to check thread dates before posting?

[smartcar111]

Originally Posted by silverbrabus

Anybody think to check thread dates before posting?

nope

[smartcar111]

You will obviously reduce life, but not as badly as the turbo. The ECU is balanced between gas savings and mild performance, but if you adjust timing and whatnot, the car can achieve a bit more performance and torque where it is needed without taking extreme detrimental life away from the car. Also, if you perform regular maintenance and know what you are doing, it shouldn't cause extreme premature engine failure.

[jetfuel]

Originally Posted by smartcar111

torque where it is needed without taking extreme detrimental life away

torque..is a killer...but... this is why you have to know your limitations..
..the turbo I drove had no "torque crazy boosted out of this world high RPM neck snapping shifting" when in town or the highway...unless it was called upon....

jetfuel...got to get me oneoff those