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Since the 453 ICE is being dropped what will you do?

Dump your car, keep it until the wheels fall off?

I estimate my car (loaded 2016 m/t Prime) with 12,000 miles was worth around 9k before the news hit. After I have no idea...

Resale will only grow worse as time wears on.

I may keep mine until I can get a firesale price on a 17 Prime m/t.
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There are enough cars around that they will still be sold on the secondary market for years. With the knowledge on here, they will probably be running for 20-30 more years. In the mean time, we will see what comes up in the way of new cars.
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I'm going to keep both of my babies forever!!!! ♥

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Keep mine for the present and maybe for many years.
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I have a 2017 cabrio. I intend to drive it until the wheels fall off. I'll then reattach the wheels and drive it some more. Like I stole it.


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Looking to buy a 16 or 17 manual (stick shift) Cabriolet in a year or two.
I think a true stick shift would be fun to drive.
Back in 1995 my daily driver was a 1992 Mitsubishi 3000 twin turbo 5 speed.
When I visited my sister in Vegas I rented a 2 door GEO Metro 5 speed, I called the egg car.
It was one of the smoothest and easiest shifting car I ever drove. Granted you banged through all 5 gears before you reached 60 mph but it was fun. Far smoother shifting than my 3000 OR Ford SHO. Paddle shifters just don't cut for me. I take a gear shift on the floor and a clutch pedal any day over paddles.
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Smart has always been a 'true' manual transmission with a computer controlled shift. In manual mode, it can be shifted with paddles, or with the floor shift. The computer operated the clutch via a clutch actuator so there does not need to be a clutch pedal, which I doubt there would be room for on the floor.

I can only assume you are talking about a DCT on the new 453 which does have a clutch pedal on the floor' I have not driven one so I have no opinion as to their operation but word has it they are quick. and fun to drive.
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Smart has always been a 'true' manual transmission with a computer controlled shift. In manual mode, it can be shifted with paddles, or with the floor shift. The computer operated the clutch via a clutch actuator so there does not need to be a clutch pedal, which I doubt there would be room for on the floor.

I can only assume you are talking about a DCT on the new 453 which does have a clutch pedal on the floor' I have not driven one so I have no opinion as to their operation but word has it they are quick. and fun to drive.
Jim, I bought my first smart in 2011 and was a member then and now have my second smart I was pretty well aware of the drive train components including the Mitsubishi motor and Getrag "automated manual" gearbox before I bought my first smart.
To me manual means you do the manual shifting of the gears.
The "computer automated manual" is like telling someone you are going to clean the house then paying some else to clean for you.
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This has come up many times in discussions with new smart owners online as well as in person. They are led to believe since there is no clutch pedal, it is an automatic and wonder why it has that hesitation (gear shifting) until they understand that is is a MANUAL transmission and does have a clutch and pressure plate between the transmission and the motor. Once they understand that it is a automated manual transmission, their expectations change immensely. MB does not do themselves or the new owners any good by calling it an automatic. it is what it is.

A true AUTOMATIC uses a fluid drive coupling and doesn't have a clutch. That is my opinion and I stand by it.
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I am a member of a large group of people that use SC's for transportation and haul them with us in our RV travels. Many of us have ordered new cars and will use them for years to come. We get about 20-40 cars at the bigger rally's.

Here is the spec on the 2017 that should be here in April

SmartCar - fortwo Prime Coupe
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