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post #21 of 54 (permalink) Old 03-23-2014, 09:15 AM
 
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I think your going to have to get 20-30 K folks on you list. Before MB listens. It's going to have to be priced right, compare to other 4 doors out there too.

To say "priced right" is a vague reference. In marketing, price is the worst domain in which to compete. Superior and more desirable products command higher prices. The focus needs to be on better cars, not lower prices.


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I think your going to have to get 20-30 K folks on you list.
Ditto, most of the petitions I sign on that site have a goal of at least 10,000 signatures. This is a good starter, it might raise some eyebrows. So let's make sure this reaches 100 first, then shoot even higher!!!!!

And I do hate to say it, but the current iteration of smart USA doesn't give a darn about us. Back during the Dave S and Jill L days and PAG, those people would move mountains to help owners out.

Shoot, they even tried helping me out and I didn't even have a smart. Just a dream. Rumour has it, Dave was considering gifting me a smart before he got kicked out. Then Jill got me an all access VIP pass to the Chicago Auto Show (this is better than any Media Credential) just so I can meet her and see the magic in action.

Then that's when the MBUSA empire rolled in.

Unrelated: Where the heck did Kamaal go?
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I signed the petition because it is the right thing for Mercedes and smart to do. I don't need or want a 4 seat smart but I do think it might keep smarts here in the USA by achieving decent production numbers.
Unfortunately Mercedes is basically using smart to lower their CAFE numbers and my guess it does so in the numbers as they stand so there is no incentive to provide better customer service or bring new products to enhance the brand.
That is my logical conclusion and I don't have any factual evidence or know anyone "in the know" to prove it.
Signing the petition may just be a way to let Mercedes know we are here and we care about our little cars as much or more than their big money people care about their big money cars. If they lose us those big money cars may have to come with little bitty engines.
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The ForFour petition is rolling along at 32 signatures.

I have added some key contacts to message with the petition, so hopefully we can strengthen the impact.

Let's keep it going!
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This board has over 45,000 members and the petition only 32 signatures??
Come on people! Sign the petition!!!
Let's make some noise!


Skippy, have you posted the link on the insider, fakebook, etc?
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This board has over 45,000 members and the petition only 32 signatures??
Come on people! Sign the petition!!!
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Skippy, have you posted the link on the insider, fakebook, etc?
Out of the 45,000 members, there are what...100-200 active members? Still more than enough to get this baby off the ground!

Indeed, spread the word!
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Skippy, have you posted the link on the insider, fakebook, etc?
I actually just posted it on the Insider, and I have shared it on Facebook under the Smart Rally page, my own, Smart, and SmartUSA.

I'm going to make another push for it at the end of the week.

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I'm afraid the support, to date, has been less than enthusiastic. That's where we, as owners, loose credibility with the smart corporate folks, IMHO. Not just on this issue, but things like bringing a diesel version, supporting a national meet, replacing the pano roof and even bringing in the 453 BRABUS - there's actually a very small group of vocal owners that never seems to translate to widespread support for any of this stuff. It's a two way street - if we expect smart USA to jump on these things we, as smart owners, need to meet them at least half way. Frankly, we don't have a very good record so far.
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I hate to admit it, but jwight is right. We only need 100 supporters and we aren't even halfway there. That looks pretty bad!

We need this to get some traction. Maybe I'll bounce this off the new Twingo loving Jalopnik crowd? (famous last words)
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I'm sorry gang...I can't sign this petition...there's absolutely no market for a 4-door Smart in the United States...too many other alternatives available in our market...it would be a horrible business decision for MB...that's why they've already said it's not going to happen...I fully agree with their decision!
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