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No.... they're not really missing a market. They just don't seem to have much interest in trying to fill an already over-saturated market. Between Fiat 500's (and all their outcroppings), Nissan Versa Note's, Chevy Sparks, Honda CR-Z/Fit, Toyota Prius C/Yaris, Ford Fiesta/C-Max.... there's already plenty of options that people are well aware of, and almost certainly with a dealership MUCH closer to them. Smart's are unique. Why would someone who hardly knows the brand look into getting a 4-seater Smart and potentially have to drive for an hour or more to the dealership when they could probably go just down the street and get a Spark or something similar?
The cars you mention, are a lot larger then the forfour. I own 2 of the ones you suggested. I'm 10 minutes from our smart dealership. The smart you own. Your driving a hour for service. The brand been here for over 8 years now. The consumer is pretty aware of the vehicle. The forfour, would really help smarts, sales numbers grow. The practical smart.
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smart really needs to offer this here.
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Their missing the market.
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This little car would sell like hot cakes.
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No they are not.


No it wouldn't.
Sadly all of the above are true.
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You can't even sell hot cakes without advertising......
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At least hot cakes have their own day once a year. That would be Shrove Tuesday I think.
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In April, supplies of small cars on dealer lots grew to the highest level in seven years. Automakers are resorting to discounts and sweetened lease deals to move the metal especially with models that haven't been updated in a few years.

In the 12 months ended April 30, small-car sales fell more than 6 percent, according to Ward's Automotive. At the same time, truck and SUV sales combined grew more than 10 percent.

So far this year, about 54 percent of U.S. vehicle sales have been trucks and SUVs. Just two years ago, cars ruled the market at 51 percent. While trucks and SUVs are expected to help the industry set a new annual sales record above 17.5 million vehicles this year, some experts are predicting a continued slowdown in sales of cars.

Gas prices are low. SUVs generally are smaller, lighter and more efficient than in the past. Older people like the higher seating position an SUV offers because it's easier to get in and out, and people of all ages use the hatchback and ample storage space.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/small-...143506104.html

Dr. Winkler and her associates at Daimler got this one right - there is no room in the U.S. small car segment or the smart showroom for the smart forfour and what would be a lofty price point.
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I've always figured if I wanted or needed a small four door, well, I'd have a gazillion different models to chose from. One of the big attractions (for me) of the fortwo was that it is a two seater, and the least expensive two seater available, to my knowledge.
And the cabrio is the least expensive convertible, so I have a fortwo cabrio, because I ain't rich.
It's a fun to drive little car. It's not a people hauler.
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The cars you mention, are a lot larger then the forfour. I own 2 of the ones you suggested. I'm 10 minutes from our smart dealership. The smart you own. Your driving a hour for service. The brand been here for over 8 years now. The consumer is pretty aware of the vehicle. The forfour, would really help smarts, sales numbers grow. The practical smart.
.... the ForTwo has been in the country for 8 years. How does that make the consumer "aware of the vehicle"? Yes, they're aware that the ForTwo exists, but the majority know absolutely jack about it. People still quietly make jokes about them to people they're with. Just the other day i stopped at a local gas station to drop off a RedBox movie, and as i was pulling into a space, i noticed two people staring at my car. As soon as i got up to the redbox, i heard the girl say something along the lines of "If you'd hit a snail, you'd roll it".

You want another reason why your theory is a little flawed? Check the dealership map. There are 87 Smart Centers in the ENTIRE United States.... the vast majority of which being cluttered around larger cities in coastal Florida and California. Look how many states have NO centers. How do these people know about the car, besides maybe a group that shows up to a car show (which would still be rather unlikely considering the lack of dealerships in a lot of areas).

Even in areas where there IS a smart center within a reasonable distance, It's not so much that people have a knowledge of the car as it is a willful obliviousness to what exactly it is.

And no... the ForFour would be wasted here in the US. As it's been mentioned, with gas prices being a bit lower than they've been, demand for smaller cars has dropped noticeably. The Dodge Dart and Chrysler 200 have already been put out of production due to it... and for the first year or two, the Dart's sold like crazy. No idea why, though.... i owned one, and it sucked.

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..... the Spark isn't an EV....
EV Spark for 2016, Chevy's advertizing it
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