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Old 07-03-2008, 10:53 AM   #21 (permalink)
 
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Official Tank Size

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It is 8.7 Main + 1.3 Reserve = 10 gal

This information is from the Tech Training Guide.
Sorry about the quality. I shot it from my phone.

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Old 07-03-2008, 11:12 AM   #22 (permalink)
 
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i'm still suspicious - there seems to be quite a bit of confusion - even among official smart documentation.

it's be interesting to fill the car and then see how many gallons can be drained from the tank. or even see how many gallons can be siphoned when it hits empty.
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I would still like to see another person go completely empty, then do a fill, but I'm now pretty convinced the poorly worded manual should say it is a 10 gallon tank.

I also believe it would be very difficult to design a gauge that could read 0.1 gallon, if that is literally all that remained in the tank. (Yesterday mine read 0.1 before I added 8.6 gallons.) But it is easy to make a gauge that can read 1.4 gallons.
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Has anyone stopped to think that the tank is coming from a country that uses the metric system. The dealer had posters up extolling the virtues of the powder coated body panels at first among a few other translation blunders. the fuel tank is under the floor how long is the filler neck to reach it. How many liters does it hold...
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Old 07-03-2008, 11:49 AM   #25 (permalink)
 
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I think this is all really confusing. What's confusing to me though, is what the big deal is.........whether it's 8.7 gallons.....or 10 gallons. I guess it's nice to know, but I try never to get below 1/4 tank anyway.....regardless of which vehicle I'm in. If I'm in familiar territory, I'll go to 1/4 tank.....maybe push it to 1/8. On a trip, I fill between 1/4 & 1/2 tank. I'm usually more than ready for a break by then, anyway. I just can't imagine driving by one gas station after another to see just how low I can go! IMHO, that just doesn't make any sense. To keep going until you run out of gas, and possibly damage your fuel pump, just to find out exactly what size the tank is?? That makes even less sense. I don't even know what size the fuel tanks are in my other vehicles.........not exactly. It just doesn't matter! When it gets down to 1/4 tank, I fill up. In the smart, when it's two segments left.......no less than one, I fill up. Even using the ScanGauge programmed for 8 gallons, I'm still just not going to take a chance on running out. What's the point? If you start looking at 1/2 tank, and there just aren't any gas stations available, that would be different, but I don't know of many places where that would happen. Maybe in years past, but not in the U.S. these days! I'm sure this will probably upset some people, but I just really don't see the concept! Sorry! I hope none of you are pilots! If you are........remind me never to fly with you!! :>)
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It is 8.7 Main + 1.3 Reserve = 10 gal

This information is from the Tech Training Guide.
Sorry about the quality. I shot it from my phone.
Wow. This confirms what I initially thought and NOT what we all read in the manual.

I would REALLY like to confirm 100% what it is! This affects mileage calculations
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This affects mileage calculations
No it doesn't. Mileage calculations are the same if you drive 300 miles and put 7 gallons in an 8 gallon tank or drive 300 miles and put 7 gallons in a 100 gallon tank. It is still miles / gallons. Tank quantity does not enter into the calculation anywhere.
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I find this entire discussion simply amazing . ROTFL ....

First of all.... There is NO " reserve " . Reserved would mean that some volume was set aside and would be available when the main tankage was emptied of it's content. This is NOT the case, as is agreed to by all.

There is a " low fuel " indication which tell you you have reached critical content point and should pay attention.... but NO CAPACITY is available when the SINGLE FUEL CONTAINER IS EMPTY.

The fuel tanks will NOT all be exactly the same as to allowable fuel volume, but should be pretty close I'm thinkin. The filler tubing acts as a sort of stand pipe and will hold a slight additional volume on top of a filled main tank. Not much, assuming the owner is not " topping off " ..... What WILL vary a lot will be the pump nozzles as to exactly how they are set up to operate the shut-off, as well as exactly how the nozzle is placed into the filler neck... and stuff like that there.

It AMAZES me that DEALERS don't even know what the size of the freakin fuel tank actually is. So, if somebody took their car into the dealer and said the " reserve " wasn't working correctly.... how would ya " test " it??

Still ROTFL...

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I find this entire discussion simply amazing . ROTFL ....

First of all.... There is NO " reserve " . Reserved would mean that some volume was set aside and would be available when the main tankage was emptied of it's content. This is NOT the case, as is agreed to by all.

There is a " low fuel " indication which tell you you have reached critical content point and should pay attention.... but NO CAPACITY is available when the SINGLE FUEL CONTAINER IS EMPTY.

The fuel tanks will NOT all be exactly the same as to allowable fuel volume, but should be pretty close I'm thinkin. The filler tubing acts as a sort of stand pipe and will hold a slight additional volume on top of a filled main tank. Not much, assuming the owner is not " topping off " ..... What WILL vary a lot will be the pump nozzles as to exactly how they are set up to operate the shut-off, as well as exactly how the nozzle is placed into the filler neck... and stuff like that there.

It AMAZES me that DEALERS don't even know what the size of the freakin fuel tank actually is. So, if somebody took their car into the dealer and said the " reserve " wasn't working correctly.... how would ya " test " it??

Still ROTFL...

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I think this is all really confusing. What's confusing to me though, is what the big deal is.........whether it's 8.7 gallons.....or 10 gallons. I guess it's nice to know, but I try never to get below 1/4 tank anyway.....regardless of which vehicle I'm in. If I'm in familiar territory, I'll go to 1/4 tank.....maybe push it to 1/8. On a trip, I fill between 1/4 & 1/2 tank. I'm usually more than ready for a break by then, anyway. I just can't imagine driving by one gas station after another to see just how low I can go! IMHO, that just doesn't make any sense. To keep going until you run out of gas, and possibly damage your fuel pump, just to find out exactly what size the tank is?? That makes even less sense. I don't even know what size the fuel tanks are in my other vehicles.........not exactly. It just doesn't matter! When it gets down to 1/4 tank, I fill up. In the smart, when it's two segments left.......no less than one, I fill up. Even using the ScanGauge programmed for 8 gallons, I'm still just not going to take a chance on running out. What's the point? If you start looking at 1/2 tank, and there just aren't any gas stations available, that would be different, but I don't know of many places where that would happen. Maybe in years past, but not in the U.S. these days! I'm sure this will probably upset some people, but I just really don't see the concept! Sorry! I hope none of you are pilots! If you are........remind me never to fly with you!! :>)

Not all of us live in congested metro areas where there are gas stations on every block open 24/7/365.....I frequently drive between towns that are 30 or more miles apart with no stores/stations in between.....many of these towns have no stations open late at night or on weekends....I try to plan ahead but am not perfect....It is very important to me to know whether I have 10 gallons vs 8.7....many of these places don't have cellular service either.......

Perhaps when you get the time you could take a trip to the "rest of the country"......
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