Can you push start a smart? - Smart Car of America Forums : Smart Car Forum
Home News Models Alternatives
 
Smart Car of America - America's Largest Smart Fortwo Enthusiast Community   Smart Fortwo, smart car, smartcar
HOME FORUMS GALLERY

Go Back   Smart Car of America Forums : Smart Car Forum > Technical > smart Operation and Maintenance


Notices

SmartCarofAmerica.com is the premier Smart Car Forum on the internet. Registered Users do not see the above ads.
» Auto Insurance
» Supporting Partner
» Recent Threads
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 02-28-2008, 10:55 AM   #1 (permalink)
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Tucson & Woodland Hills
Drive: Cabrio
Posts: 487
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Can you push start a smart?

Re: the dead battery post, can you bump start a smart by pushing it or rolling down a hill?

Westfield 11 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-28-2008, 11:40 AM   #2 (permalink)
 
24-42's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Roseburg,OR - Tujunga (LA), CA
Drive: Passion
Posts: 917
Thanks: 37
Thanked 23 Times in 15 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by Westfield 11 View Post
Re: the dead battery post, can you bump start a smart by pushing it or rolling down a hill?
YES !

Donald LaFavor
24-42 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-28-2008, 11:56 AM   #3 (permalink)
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Hampden, MA
Drive: Passion
Posts: 2,470
Thanks: 7
Thanked 13 Times in 12 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by Westfield 11 View Post
Re: the dead battery post, can you bump start a smart by pushing it or rolling down a hill?
Any computer controlled engine that exists through a cat you run a risk of killing the cat with a minor blast caused by raw fuel getting lit off there.
I will pass thanks
karl
Karl Roth is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-28-2008, 12:12 PM   #4 (permalink)
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: usa
Drive: Passion
Posts: 29
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I have a question. Or two. Does the ECU know that you are in 'start' mode if the key is left in the run position? In start mode I assume the air/fuel ratio is modified. If the battery is dead forget it. The alternator will not help you, you will have no fuel pump and so on. But I think the actual question is a situation where the battery is too low to spin the starter. Since there is no clutch pedal, the normal way to decouple the starting motor on a push start, do you move the lever to neutral? How fast is that process? I suspect that is also an electric motor to make that change. As for raw fuel, this does not appear much different than the cylinder discharge in a situation where the car will not start because of a wet ignition. This is speculation on my part and I hope to learn more.

Last edited by Kysmart; 02-28-2008 at 12:18 PM.
Kysmart is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-28-2008, 12:28 PM   #5 (permalink)
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Hampden, MA
Drive: Passion
Posts: 2,470
Thanks: 7
Thanked 13 Times in 12 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kysmart View Post
I have a question. Or two. Does the ECU know that you are in 'start' mode if the key is left in the run position? In start mode I assume the air/fuel ratio is modified. If the battery is dead forget it. The alternator will not help you, you will have no fuel pump and so on. But I think the actual question is a situation where the battery is too low to spin the starter. Since there is no clutch pedal, the normal way to decouple the starting motor on a push start, do you move the lever to neutral? How fast is that process? I suspect that is also an electric motor to make that change. As for raw fuel, this does not appear much different than the cylinder discharge in a situation where the car will not start because of a wet ignition. This is speculation on my part and I hope to learn more.
try search this has all been beaten to death
Karl Roth is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-28-2008, 12:43 PM   #6 (permalink)
 
24-42's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Roseburg,OR - Tujunga (LA), CA
Drive: Passion
Posts: 917
Thanks: 37
Thanked 23 Times in 15 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kysmart View Post
I have a question. Or two. Does the ECU know that you are in 'start' mode if the key is left in the run position? In start mode I assume the air/fuel ratio is modified. If the battery is dead forget it. The alternator will not help you, you will have no fuel pump and so on. But I think the actual question is a situation where the battery is too low to spin the starter. Since there is no clutch pedal, the normal way to decouple the starting motor on a push start, do you move the lever to neutral? How fast is that process? I suspect that is also an electric motor to make that change. As for raw fuel, this does not appear much different than the cylinder discharge in a situation where the car will not start because of a wet ignition. This is speculation on my part and I hope to learn more.
ROLL STARTING

1. Foot on brake
2. Ign. on
3. Shift to Neutral
4. shift to + and hold, 'N' changes to '1'
5. Foot off brake put accelerator to floor
6. Begin rolling
7 car starts

Donald LaFavor



You don't need a really steep hill nor high speed
Works for me.
24-42 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-28-2008, 03:49 PM   #7 (permalink)
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Tucson & Woodland Hills
Drive: Cabrio
Posts: 487
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I live on a hill and will try this tomorrow. It's a good tool to have in your kit if the starter won't work for whatever reason.
Westfield 11 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-28-2008, 05:29 PM   #8 (permalink)
Supporting Tuner
SCOA Club
 
Evilution's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Drive: Pure
Posts: 1,030
Thanks: 2
Thanked 38 Times in 26 Posts
Evilution is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-28-2008, 05:53 PM   #9 (permalink)
Admin/Mod.
SCOA Club
 
JPaul's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Washington, DC
Drive: Passion
Posts: 7,419
Thanks: 74
Thanked 276 Times in 186 Posts
Garage
Being neither technophile nor technophobe, just technologically inclined, I'm tempted to say "read the fine manual". But I do understand that some manuals are difficult to read, let alone understand. Is this the case here? (I'm still waiting for delivery...)
JPaul is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-28-2008, 07:00 PM   #10 (permalink)
 
a2jack's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Annarbor, Michigan. (a2)
Drive: Passion
Posts: 2,143
Thanks: 379
Thanked 188 Times in 131 Posts
Manual OK.

JPaul: Manual is better than most. But any car manual is, at least, worth one or two reads just to know where to find things.

A2Jack
a2jack is offline   Reply With Quote
 
Today


This ad will not be shown if you are logged in.

Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Remote start rwj53 smart Operation and Maintenance 18 12-19-2010 09:48 AM
Noise when you first start the car eqwalker smart fortwo (451 - US vehicle) 10 02-21-2008 05:02 PM
Can a 451 be Push-Started? LorbeerTLC smart Operation and Maintenance 7 01-29-2008 11:10 PM
jump start??? maxtraxduffy smart Operation and Maintenance 19 01-27-2008 10:26 AM
When did they start employing robots at Smart? KeyserSoze smart Reservations 6 01-12-2008 09:31 PM

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.2

All times are GMT -7. The time now is 08:39 AM.



Smart Cars of America, LLC is not affiliated with, authorized by, associated with or have any connection with G&K, Zap, Mercedes-Benz, Mercedes-Benz AMG, Mercedes-Benz McLaren Mercedes-Benz USA, LLC, smart Canada Division, DaimlerChrysler, Chrysler LLC, DaimlerChrysler AG, Maybach, smart gmbh, a division of Mercedes Benz LLC, the manufacturer of SMART automobiles, smart USA Distributor, LLC, a division of Penske Automotive Group, Inc, the exclusive authorized U.S. importer and distributor of the smart vehicle or any of their official dealerships


Powered by vBulletin® Copyright ©2000 - 2012, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.3.2
Garage Plus vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.
Ad Management by RedTyger