Looking for oil/lubrication information on Fortwo

[jwight]

Found this on www.lubrication.net:

Shell Helix Ultra AB 5W-40

Fully Synthetic Shell Helix Ultra represents the ultimate performance achievable for today's passenger car engines. Developed by Shell using a combination of additive components and synthetic base fluids, the performance of Shell Helix Ultra far exceeds all current industry and motor manufacturer specifications. It meets all motor manufacturers technical requirements and is officially approved by Peugeot-Citroen, Rover Group, VW/Audi, BMW (Longlife), Mercedes-Benz (229.3[and 229.5]), Porsche and Ferrari service-fill approval.

John

[Fredvon4]

Based on what ClassicSmarts posted I will be a Castrol Syntec user

I like both MotorCraft and Castrol products and pricing...grin

[Old smart]

Why would we be working with M-B recommendations when the engine is a Mitsubishi? At least the 451s.'

[jwight]

fish, my take on it is M-B is the car maker; Mitsu supplies the engine but M-B sets all the service requirements, including oil. Could be totally wrong, of course.

John

[sjdouglas]

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They have everything from Oil, Tranny fluid, brake fluids, Leather and Vinyl cleaner, etc etc etc
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[jwight]

How about we give this a rest until somebody with a new car confirms what the owners manual calls for (although I think our Canadian members have done this) and then we'll all know what the "book" calls for.

John

[SmartBob]

Originally Posted by Fredvon4

Based on what ClassicSmarts posted I will be a Castrol Syntec user

I like both MotorCraft and Castrol products and pricing...grin

Fred, many posts back, did you recommend a break-in with standard oil then switch to the synth after 1000 mi or so? I wanna get this down.

[cohtrumpet]

MB sheet 229.5 approved oils; "MB Longlife Service Oils"
for passenger cars with gas and diesel engines with extended drain intervals beyond 229.3 oils, to 30,000 km, min 1.8% fuel saving, first oils introduced summer 2002. ACEA A3 B4. For gas engines of the M100 series, gas engines of the M200 series and diesel engines of the OM600 series (not models with Euro 4 diesel particle filters).
229.5 engine oils must be used with fleece oil filter designed for use with 229.5 engine oils.

AGIP Formula LL DC 5W-30 (I)
Aral SuperTronic G 0W-30 (D)
Castrol DCO TOPUP 0W-30 (D)
Castrol Syntec European Formula 0W-30 (USA)
Elf Excellium 229.5 5W-30 (F)
FormulaShell Ultra AB 5W-30 (GB)
Fuchs Titan Supersyn SL MB 5W-30 (D)
Labo MB 229.5 5W-30 (F)
Liqui Moly Longtime High Tech 5W-30 (D)
Mobil 1 SuperSyn European Car Formula 0W-40 (USA)
Mobil 1 Turbodiesel 0W-40
Mobil SHC Formula MB 5W-30
Motorex Profil M-XL 5W-30 (CH)
OMV full syn MB 5W-30 (A)
Pennzoil European Formula Ultra 5W-30 (USA)
Premium Synthetik Motorenöl 5W-30 (DaimlerChrysler, D)
Quaker State European Formula Ultra 5W-30 (USA)
Shell Helix Ultra AB 5W-30 (Mercedes-Benz) (GB)
Shell Helix Ultra DC 229.5 (GB)
Total Quartz 229.5 5W-30 (F)
Valvoline SynPower MB 5W-30 (NL)
Valvoline SynPower 5W-40
Valvoline SynPower 20W-50

[jwight]

"229.5 engine oils must be used with fleece oil filter designed for use with 229.5 engine oils."

And just what is a fleece oil filter? Something tells me Fram, etc. will not have an equivalent in stock anytime soon. Now I understand the $20 retail price - ouch!

NOTE: found this on mysimon.com:


2002 Mercedes - Benz C32 AMG fleece media oil filter - 3.2 V6
Mann HU 718/5 x fleece media extended service interval oil filter for 2002 Mercedes - Benz C32 AMG with 3.2 V6 engine $14.99

So, the M-B oil spec requires this filter, but it's a Mitsubishi engine - what filter does Mitsu require? It's a puzzlement.

[Old smart]

A little poking around produced the info that the Mobil 1 brand oil filter has a high-efficiency "synthetic" filtering medium (opposed to the common pleated paper), and that may be the same as the "golden fleece" spoken of. No idea how much they cost.

Haven't heard from new owners with owners manuals in hand. I still wonder if the engine recommendations should come from M-B or from Mitsubishi (or Mitsubishi via Smart GmbH)?

Add: Purolators with Microfil III medium (not all have it).