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Old 01-17-2008, 11:46 AM   #1 (permalink)
 
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Micro Hybrid Drive: How easy to implement on US 451s?

I saw a photo with Dr. Z in a Fortwo with "Micro Hybrid Drive" on the side of it. Supposedly, it can be quite the mileage booster.

From Autocar's (www.autocar.uk.co) review of the ForTwo 70 hp mhd:

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This is the new ‘stop-and-start’ Smart, the ForTwo mhd (for micro-hybrid). It uses a 71bhp version of the Mitsubishi-derived 1.0-litre three-cylinder petrol engine, but ditches a normal starter motor and alternator in favour of a single, belt-driven starter-generator that performs both functions. Like other stop-start cars, the Smart’s engine stops when it isn’t needed and restarts as soon as the driver touches the gear selector.
So, if there is already a belt for the alternator ... shouldn't this be easy to implement provided that new code is flashed somewhere?

(BTW, I love this place. You can ask a question like this, and a few days later there is exhaustive debate and answers.)

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Old 01-17-2008, 11:53 AM   #2 (permalink)
 
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i have a 1972 international cub loboy,, a little tractor that i use to mow the grass with , it has a starter generator, which is the same thing as they are talking about,, works just fine unless the v-belt gets loose

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Old 01-17-2008, 08:45 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Sounds like smart is hard at work on the MHD; good chance (IMO) it will come to North America if it goes into production. So, enjoy the current gas version until it's time to trade for the MHD smart.

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Old 01-18-2008, 04:58 PM   #4 (permalink)
 
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I would imagine it would not be real hard if this company were involved -

http://www.hybridtechnologies.com/.

Check out the 2007 smart they did for Sam's Club/ WalMart.

http://www.hybridtechnologies.com/fi...HTE001-069.wmv

http://www.hybridtechnologies.com/fi...HTE001-071.wmv

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Old 01-18-2008, 05:47 PM   #5 (permalink)
 
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Sorry, but it is not that simple

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So, if there is already a belt for the alternator ... shouldn't this be easy to implement provided that new code is flashed somewhere?
I am not an expert by any means, but it is not as simple as "flashing a code". It involves a large starter/alternator assembly, heavy-duty drive system as well as the software/hardware components necessary to make it all work. I would also assume a larger, more powerful battery would be necessary as well.
Perhaps someone more familiar with the system could give us a better description?

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