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Old 05-31-2008, 09:14 PM   #11 (permalink)
 
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Question. Is the Smarts transmission plug magnetized?

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Old 05-31-2008, 10:09 PM   #12 (permalink)
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2years/24K mile warranty? You got to be kidding me. That's all the warranty that you get?
there is another post about this. you can purchase more years on the warranty if you like.
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The MB smart warranty IS NOT EXTENDABLE

We may purchase a Third Party Service Contract from the dealer OR from any other company....adding to the cost of ownership
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Oh! Is this why the engine smells like something's kinda.. burning? Because the oils need changing already? Good to know!
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No smilies or internet icons so I am not sure if you are being sarcastic or what...

Those of us who recommend changing the oil early are not suggesting the burning smell has anything to do with it...

That smell is just the machining oils and any painted surfaces close to real hot components cooking off... and it is normal

We are changing out the factory Oils early to get rid of internal engine and gear box machining debris, initial wear materiel, that causes contaminated lubricants.
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No, no sarcasm here. I've never bought a car this new.. Drove it off the lot with like 10 miles on it. Any other car I've ever owned has had at least a few hundred on it before I got to it, so there was no burning smell like this... It's just not familiar to me.

So.. ok then. Changing the oils won't stop the burning smell. Gotcha. But it's a good idea to do it, in some people's opinion, otherwise there wouldn't be this debate.
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Motor maintenance.... and specifically discussions like Ford vs Chevy or What Oil brand is best, are the most acrimonious subjects you can start on a car forum...

I am of the mind that preventative or prophylactic maintenance can extend the life of a machine

I spent my first career as a professional mechanic

I still build car and motorcycle racing motors, and I still rebuild automobile gas and diesel motors, differentials, and transmissions

It is my opinion that the lubricants used for the break in process, where wear materials and heat are highest, should be removed early in the life of the machine ( 500~1000 miles) and replaced with fresh oil/gear lube...then follow normal changes for life of vehicle

It is also my opinion that the smart oil change interval of 10,000 miles or 12 months is not a wise schedule.. I recommend every 6 months or 5000~7500 miles max

I agree that every 90 days or 3000 miles is too early unless the motor is used in an EXTREME environment like off road high RPM slow speed activities

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Man, you'd think, with my uncles and cousins being motocross nuts like they are (especially Uncle Donny! He used to ride for OSSA & Triumph, back in the day!), I should have heard or learned something about engine maintenance/performance over the years. Ah well. Never too late to learn something new, I guess. Thanks!
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After break-in, my own regimen will be to split out engine oil changes from the rest of the maintenance schedule. My use for the smart will be in-and-around town with numerous short trips and errands where the engine does not get hot and stay hot for long periods of time. That, among other uses, is classified as "severe service" as engine condensation will not be throughly burned off. Also, 12 months will come long before 10,000 miles. So, I'll tend to the oil and filter at 6-month intervals and leave the rest of the maintenance schedule as-is at 12 months, et seq.

One extra thing I'll plan to do at the first occasion that the engine is dropped for maintenance is to have the aluminum head torque checked and re-set. Aluminum heads have a nasty habit of loosening as the fasteners bed-into soft alloy. Sometimes the heads can weep until they come up to temperature.
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Old smart, do you happen to know if Mitsubishi uses torque to yield head bolts?
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