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Old 07-07-2008, 06:39 PM   #1 (permalink)
 
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Howdy All

Due to a VERY gracious gift from one of our (well known) "Friend/s" I now have a dead SAM.

Lots to be investigated, But this is the Brains of the Smart ] SAM - DSCN1433

That 1 chip decides if you are going to have a good day or a bad day

Here is the family, they decide how well things work (ABS, Traction control, windows. doors, etc.) SAM - DSCN1432

And ME with 3 computers running (the Palm can not be seen) trying to establish communication with this disposable stranger

Let the Hac game continue

ASM

OOHH this is ONLY for the 450, it is UNKNOWN if the 451 uses the same SAM unit


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Old 11-15-2008, 09:53 AM   #2 (permalink)
 
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Sam?

So i think my " Sam " is dieing, how do i go about getting a new one? i have a 2002 CDI from canada with 15k miles on it
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Old 11-15-2008, 11:00 AM   #3 (permalink)
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ASM, one of the more enigmatic posts so far - what are you trying to tell us?
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Old 11-15-2008, 12:36 PM   #4 (permalink)
 
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Try Eddy at Flying Tigers in Candida, shop.flyingtiger.ca

But what problems are you having making you think you have a SAM problem?

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Old 11-15-2008, 12:53 PM   #5 (permalink)
 
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How fried my Sam
How fried my Sam
Nobody knows
How fried my Sam...



Okay, it's grammatically incorrect, but so is, "To boldly go where no man has gone before."

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well when i start the car it is fine, but when i get above 13mph or when the car feels like it i lose call acc's, windows, radio, turn sig, head lights, locks, fan, ac, soft top etc.. had it into MB of america and they can not help me due to its a smart from canada
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Old 11-16-2008, 11:28 AM   #7 (permalink)
 
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Now you have me REAL curious , So you are saying the moment you go above 13 MPH you lose accessories or are you saying "Sometimes"?

Let me ask this question, is that the same speed where the auto door lock happens?

If you start your car and while idling you hit the door lock button on your dash do you lose accessories?

If the answer to the above questions are yes, then there is a problem in the SAM.

If you are going to buy a new 1, get a hold of me moments before you place the order, I may be able to give you a work around that if it works then you'll save the money and if it doesn't. well you were buying one anyways.

let me know

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Old 11-16-2008, 05:25 PM   #8 (permalink)
 
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While reading about another problem, I read something you may want to check. check to see if there is a windshield leak allowing the SAM to get wet.

Just a thought

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well when i start the car it is fine, but when i get above 13mph or when the car feels like it i lose call acc's, windows, radio, turn sig, head lights, locks, fan, ac, soft top etc.. had it into MB of america and they can not help me due to its a smart from canada
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Pressing the lock button does not cause it to happen, now it seems to be getting worse moments after i start the car i hear a tick or two from under the dash ( the sam or near it ) and then all the power is gone.. i had to drive home last night with the flashers!
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Hey, just for further clarification, you said you have a 2002 diesel that came from Ca.

Do you have the 599 CC motor or the 799 cc motor,1 would have a ZEE unit the other would have a SAM, but then again a 2002 should still be a gen 1 with the small motor and a ZEE unit (reason I am SSOO confused).

A SAM unit looks like this http://www.evilution.co.uk/index.php?page=modpage&id=174&men=electrical

And a ZEE unit looks like this http://www.evilution.co.uk/index.php?page=modpage&id=263&men=electrical

If you have a ZEE unit look at relay “E” this appears to be the relay that supplies the power to the items you are losing.

OOHH and for further research, could you give me an exact list of what you lose when this happens (I’m looking to see if they all have a common link/1 bad component).

Let me know

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