I don't know about every body else but I have over thirty years of buying cars, motorcycles and trucks...
Most large item purchases in life have a fixed cost, perhaps and sales tax and then it is yours...
The automobile is a much more technical purchase...
Vehicle base price (invoice, MSRP +/- ??)
Cost of options
Cost of extended service plans
Tax
Other dealer fees (think $50 lot tax, $75 document fee, $275 Ad Volerum)
PITA to get removed dealer options (think fabric stain proofing, ZeeBart undercoating, Clear coat protecting)
Registration & License Destination charge
Insurance premium
Most of us are now 10 months past deciding we want the Lil bugger
Many of us are thinking about how much he/she will cost...
Holidays coming up and we would like to know how much of the next 180 day budget we can devote to Christmas shopping... I bet more then one spouse is pestering his or her partner to know these things...
I don't know about every body else but I have over thirty years of buying cars, motorcycles and trucks...
Most large item purchases in life have a fixed cost, perhaps and sales tax and then it is yours...
The automobile is a much more technical purchase...
Vehicle base price (invoice, MSRP +/- ??)
Cost of options
Cost of extended service plans
Tax
Other dealer fees (think $50 lot tax, $75 document fee, $275 Ad Volerum)
PITA to get removed dealer options (think fabric stain proofing, ZeeBart undercoating, Clear coat protecting)
Registration & License Destination charge
Insurance premium
Most of us are now 10 months past deciding we want the Lil bugger
Many of us are thinking about how much he/she will cost...
Holidays coming up and we would like to know how much of the next 180 day budget we can devote to Christmas shopping... I bet more then one spouse is pestering his or her partner to know these things...
THAT is t h e fuss Gus ;)
I for one, being high on the list at 1174, am hoping the destination charge is NOT going to be exorbitant. I also am hoping that the warranty extension for the existing one that is terrible is also NOT going to be exorbitant. We all have maintained a great deal of patience thru this whole waiting thing and as you have said, Fred, we do have other lives and expenses here to handle in our lives....especially at this time of year.
I have no doubt that as soon as the dealers become armed with info (they are being kept out of the loop, too, I believe--big secrets!) they will be calling their prospective buyers to *come on down* to discuss the bottom line and the all too anxiously awaited date of delivery.
I don't know about the rest of you, but this forum provides more information than even the dealers presently have and that's a fact. (as dear Lilly Tomlin used to put it! LOLOL)
We all will just have to play this waiting game out to its end, that's all.
I just wish that those two big variables....destination charge and warranty extension.....were KNOWN at this time like the rest of the configurator details that became fact once we filled out the form.
The *fuss, guss* could add as much as 10% more to the bottom line of the transaction and would then make the deal not so sweet anymore.
I believe destination charges are negotiated between the car manufacturers and the Teamsters, and they are fixed no matter what the actual delivery mileage is. Also a WAG, but I think most delivery charges in the USA are in the $500 -600 range.
Destination Charge
Destination charge is the amount the automaker charges the dealer to deliver a new vehicle from the factory. This charge can vary among automakers as well as among different vehicles. In most cases the destination charge for a given vehicle is the same to any point in the United States, whether the car has to travel across town to a dealer in Detroit, or across the continent to a dealer in Los Angeles. Since it is a fixed, unavoidable cost to a dealer, destination charges seldom can be negotiated.
Q. Why do I have to pay a “destination charge” when I buy a car? I know that the car must be shipped to the dealership, but so what? When I buy any large appliance, they’re shipped as well but I don't see a special charge for that.
— Jim M., Morgantown, W.Va.
A. With most things we buy at the store, the cost of shipping the product to the retailer is included in the price. For motor vehicles, federal law requires the destination charge to be listed on the window sticker.
The Automobile Information Disclosure Act, commonly called the Monroney Act, requires manufacturers to put a retail price sticker on each new vehicle. That sticker must include all various information, including the make, model, serial number, final assembly point, MSRP, price suggested for optional equipment, and the transportation charge.
By the way, since the dealer really pays the manufacturer to have that vehicle delivered from the factory, the destination charge is rarely negotiable.
Too many variables... twould be just nice for PAG to get off their butts and tell us ...They already know this info and I bet the destination charge will be the exact same for each of us
Research any car in Edmunds and you see trends like ALL Ford Superduty trucks... made at the Kentucky plant cost $950 but other cars/trucks built elswhere cost less, like the Ranger is $660
BTW it was Edmunds that had $600 as the guestimate destination charge for a Smart car to my Zipcode
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