Different Information from Dealer

[SmartBob]

Geeeee ........a car salesman misleading a buyer...no way! LMAO Their #1 job.....tell you anything to shut you up and keep you interested. Mind you, they're not all like that but I'd say 90%. It's only a few weeks now, people! We'll be hearing the truth right here come the end of Dec or Beginning of Jan.

[Fredvon4]

As I see it

Step #1 -- Reserve for $99 bucks

Step #2 -- Configure for free via e-mail invite from IB

Do we think/suspect this is the actual vehicle order that is made in OUR NAME? Or perhaps a good data source for PAG to pre order groups of similar cars?

Step #3 -- Go to dealer and complete vehicle order with some deposit

Do we think/suspect this is the actual vehicle order that is made in OUR NAME?

Step #4 -- Go to dealer pay and take delivery

Some assumptions

50 or 70 dealers? We think each will get 3 or 4 demo cars... 50X3 = 150 ~ 70X4 = 280 of the first boat load as "demo" cars

I think it safe to assume all the REAL insiders (PAG and IB employees and some of their friends and family) get cars out of the first boat load... So how many do we guess that would be? 50, 100, 200?

We have no idea how they are to be distributed ..... Everything is pure guess right now..

Please enlighten us if you have real info...

I expect that at least one car configured exactly like I paid a deposit for would be heading to my dealer with a VIN/Serial number designated for me.

I expect that my place in line for THAT car relates to my relatively early reservation date.

I think what makes sense is a PAG/IB location at the port that group ships via rail and truck. How they will sort and who gets cars first is unknown.

I highly doubt they just spit out the remainder of the first two thousand cars to each dealer and let the dealers sort who to call... that method don't make much sense

I am real curious how any dealer (in a pre ordered car world) can say they will get XX number of cars per month.... That allocation makes sense for the second and subsequent years as a distribution plan.

I find it hard to figure how they could ever predict that number....Especially if they intend internet sales to be main marketing focus

50~70 dealers... If 900 of the first several days of reservations are from Southern California then I EXPECT 900 cars to go to that regional dealer.

If only 1 car from March 19th reservation is from Arkansas I expect that regional dealer to get that car.... and no more

What would be the point of March 19th reservation and early Sept Confirmation IF you have to wait until June 08 for your regional dealer to get one in that configuration?