Home News Models Alternatives
 
Smart Car of America - America's Largest Smart Fortwo Enthusiast Community   Smart Fortwo, smart car, smartcar
HOME FORUMS GALLERY

Go Back   Smart Car of America Forums > Smart Car Community > Smart Car News & Rumors

Notices

» Supporting Partner
» Recent Threads
Music Game
5,591 Replies
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 01-14-2008, 04:40 PM   #1 (permalink)
 
spdickey's Avatar
 
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Drive: smart passion coupe
My SCOA Gallery
smart reports 30% attrition - NY Times 1/14/08

Orphan hunters, get ready!

http://wheels.blogs.nytimes.com/2008...art-car-sells/

Quote:
Originally Posted by nytimes.com
But there’s been a little snag in small car paradise. Only about 70 percent of would-be buyers, those who made $99 deposits, are following through with a purchase, a Smart spokesman told our Tim Moran on Sunday. In some cases, email contacts or phone numbers have changed; in others, potential buyer have changed their minds.

“It’s not an order until the car is physically taken possession of,” the spokesman said, adding that it was likely that some Smart cars, which cost between $11,600 and $18,000, might be available on dealer lots.
30,000 orders (is this before or after the attrition?). 20,000 production (25,000 ???). 70% of 30,000 is 21,000. If this keeps up, all the people who want one by the end of 2008 will get one.


http://www.industryweek.com/ReadArti...rticleID=15649
Quote:
Originally Posted by Agence France-Presse
Since last March, Smart USA received more than 30,000 orders, which were sealed by prospective buyers making a $99 down payment. The company believes 70% of these preliminary orders will result in final sales, said Ken Kettenbeil, Daimler's director of communications.

Last edited by spdickey; 01-14-2008 at 11:29 PM.. Reason: added second source from France

spdickey is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-14-2008, 04:42 PM   #2 (permalink)
SCOA Club
 
SmartShanna's Avatar
 
Location: San Diego, CA
Drive: 2008 Passion (Miette)
My SCOA Gallery
I think that would be 30% attrition--your headline scared me SP

SmartShanna is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-14-2008, 04:42 PM   #3 (permalink)
SCOA Club
 
sisyphus's Avatar
 
Location: Michigan
Um, no. According to the article, that would be 30% attrition. 70% of reservers are following through.

sisyphus is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-14-2008, 04:43 PM   #4 (permalink)
SCOA Club
 
sisyphus's Avatar
 
Location: Michigan
Shanna, that's creepy! Look at our posting times!

sisyphus is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-14-2008, 04:44 PM   #5 (permalink)
 
spdickey's Avatar
 
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Drive: smart passion coupe
My SCOA Gallery
Quote:
Originally Posted by sisyphus View Post
Shanna, that's creepy! Look at our posting times!
And check out how fast I fixed the headline!

spdickey is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-14-2008, 04:52 PM   #6 (permalink)
SCOA Club
 
SmartShanna's Avatar
 
Location: San Diego, CA
Drive: 2008 Passion (Miette)
My SCOA Gallery
Okay, guys, this is all too weird! great minds...

SmartShanna is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-14-2008, 04:54 PM   #7 (permalink)
 
wwhopper's Avatar
 
Location: Washington DC
Drive: Mercedes-Benz, Segway I-2
I don't doubt it

I had a change of heart after the driving session this summer. Now I am waiting to see the one I want up close and without a line of people in front or behind me waiting to get in to it.

No doubt some people have just forgotten their deposit too!

Still really would love the Roadster, but they stopped making that. We drove that at a Mercedes-Benz Club national event in 2004, what fun. That one would be YES, no question!

wwhopper is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-14-2008, 04:59 PM   #8 (permalink)
Mostly Harmless
SCOA Club
 
MicroNut's Avatar
 
Location: Southern Colorado
Drive: Passion Coupe
My SCOA Gallery
Very Interesting!

I'm surprised that the attrition rate is so high among, presumably at this point, 1173's. Surely it can only go higher as they work further down the line to the less fanatical reservers.

I note the article also state the total number of units available in 2008 as 20,000. If there are currently 45,000 reservation holders, and overall attrition reaches, say, 50%, PAG will still need to manage those orphans very carefully to satisfy demand.

MicroNut is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-14-2008, 05:02 PM   #9 (permalink)
 
spdickey's Avatar
 
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Drive: smart passion coupe
My SCOA Gallery
Quote:
Originally Posted by MicroNut View Post
Very Interesting!

I'm surprised that the attrition rate is so high among, presumably at this point, 1173's. Surely it can only go higher as they work further down the line to the less fanatical reservers.

I note the article also state the total number of units available in 2008 as 20,000. If there are currently 45,000 reservation holders, and overall attrition reaches, say, 50%, PAG will still need to manage those orphans very carefully to satisfy demand.
The attrition rate goes higher the longer people wait. As the backlog increases, so will the final attrition. They may be keeping to that 30,000 number as "active reservations" and may all ready subtracting the ones who are/may drop out later. My dealer all ready had one out of his first 20 forgot he even made a deposit.

Also doing this means new people will still come in to dealers to see, drive, reserve and possibly be sold smarts. Not bad marketing actually!

spdickey is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-14-2008, 05:02 PM   #10 (permalink)
 
CruisingAZ's Avatar
 
Location: Phoenix, Arizona
Drive: 2008 smart passion
It would be interesting to see which markets this is in, I wonder if it is higher in the cities where they made the road show stops or lower in those cities.

CruisingAZ is offline   Reply With Quote
Today
 


This ad will not be shown if you are logged in.

Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Motortrend smart roadtrip LA to Detroit reports spdickey Smart Car News & Rumors 20 01-11-2008 07:22 PM
Welcome, Little Smart Car, to the Big American Road - New York Times 1/6/08 MicroNut Smart Car News & Rumors 4 01-07-2008 06:41 PM
Smart makes NY Times jwight Smart Car News & Rumors 3 12-30-2007 05:11 PM
Attrition Old smart Smart Car Reservations 45 12-09-2007 10:35 AM
NY Times Choose Smart. a2jack Smart Car News & Rumors 2 11-20-2007 03:49 PM

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.0.1

All times are GMT -7. The time now is 11:22 PM.


Smart Cars of America, LLC is not affiliated with, authorized by, associated with or have any connection with G&K, Zap, Mercedes-Benz, Mercedes-Benz AMG, Mercedes-Benz McLaren Mercedes-Benz USA, LLC, smart Canada Division, DaimlerChrysler, Chrysler LLC, DaimlerChrysler AG, Maybach, smart gmbh, a division of Mercedes Benz LLC, the manufacturer of SMART automobiles, smart USA Distributor, LLC, a division of Penske Automotive Group, Inc, the exclusive authorized U.S. importer and distributor of the smart vehicle or any of their official dealerships


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.3.0
Ad Management by RedTyger