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Old 11-20-2007, 03:33 PM   #11 (permalink)
 
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Actually, I'm just referring to those of us on this site, and people who would if they knew about it.

This is what we were told: We'd have dealership announcements on January 1st or earlier. We'd be contacted to re-confirm our $99 reservations, and once there were official dealers, we'd be contacted when the cars are about ready to arrive.

So far, no breach of faith on my part. The website was more important to PAG during the roadshow, because it was the primary method of getting information out to potential buyers, and even then, the important stuff was model, features, price, and how to reserve. That's still the most important function of the website, but now the best and easiest method of distributing information is via the mass media, now that the press event's been had.

I think we'd all like more information, but the reality is that we're all going to have to be more patient. If things still look the same after the first week of January, you have my permission (like you need it) to flame away.



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Sorry ...while I think I know what you mean--- it sounds like the 35 thousand of us who rapidly sent 99 dollars 99X35,000= $3,465,000
are just a "drop in the bucket" ??

PAG and IB have not kept up their end of the bargain as far as I am concerned....

We have showed our good faith with cash money...all we are asking is more and better INFORMATION!! No one out here is expressing any unreasonable expectations...IMO

Well that is not true, I think we all are universally disappointed in the 2/24 warranty issue

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Old 11-20-2007, 03:46 PM   #12 (permalink)
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I'm with Fred on this. The website did not really follow up very well. We found most of the latest stuff thru our great eyes and ears right hear at SCOA. Thank goodness for our team. We still know more than most guys selling the cars. LOL

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Old 11-20-2007, 03:55 PM   #13 (permalink)
 
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This is all by design
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Old 11-20-2007, 05:59 PM   #14 (permalink)
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We still know more than most guys selling the cars. LOL
This is true for most dealerships - and it ain't hard to know more than the average car salesperson.
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Old 11-21-2007, 06:40 AM   #15 (permalink)
 
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Well maybe I read too much into the "contract" between PAG and Internet Brands (IB) that was linked to earlier....

I see no reason why IB or PAG should NOT have the "In the News" section current---

I see no reason why there is NOT ONE mention in any way on/in the site about the new car warranty---

I see no reason why the info on the road show, when you hover over a location, is incomplete of completely wrong---

If some of you see these errors as OK, normal, or reasonable-- then you have a lower expectation then I do....

While I have never personally met Roger Pensky, I have been at two events when he talked.... he sounded like a smart business man, extremely knowledgeable about human nature, and a rational pragmatic thinker.... I have a hard time accepting that he is this "hands off" with one of his major business ventures...

THE SMARTUSA web site IS PAG's one and only outlet for the official release of info--- each letter and note from them to us recommends to check back frequently for info and news

Ommitting any archive or link to all of the news letters is a giant sin in my opinion

Re--- the knowing more then a dealer sales person....

While generally true that most older car/truck buyers tend to know more about a specific product..(I always do) at least the sales staff usually has a better understanding then the public about company info, order times, available programs, warranty issues, etc...

In this case I understand the lack of knowledge of the direct sales staff.... We have info that the GM or head sales gurus for each potential dealership are just now completing all the regional or national meetings and briefings they attended.. We know that NO dealer technical training has happened yet and we know that no official release of selected dealers has happened

We can also assume several of the dealers were "in the know" early, because many have expended capitol to start building Smart Centers---Thus it is obvious they were told, under threat of some sort, to NOT release any info until Papa PAG does the official anouncment... fully understandable from my perspective
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I suspect that when the LA Auto Show is done and now with the completion of the San Jose press event last month, the marketing folks will get back in gear and update the website.
I believe that the development and maintenance of the website is an IB responsibility.
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They've really "dropped the ball" on the website. There is NO new information for at least one month......since the announcement of the pricing, I believe.
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THAT was over two months ago.
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Question: Would you prefer to have information given to you , given out on the internet, that after a day or week, or even late next month, was retracted or changed or updated?

Isn't the correct information more important that getting something out there that is not yet final? A month out from the launch, you have to know things are getting changed around last minute, updates are in the works, etc...

Like stated above, January 1st is the target date.. let's give them till then before jumping off the ship. What is going to happen in 30 days +/- that will make you change your mind about owning a SMART?

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Well Steve I can think of several things that have me a tad bit concerned about INVESTING around 17 thousand dollars....

The warranty is a BIG issue
The delivery scheme is a BIG issue

The fact that I was "invited" to participate and gave Cash up front and told to watch the SmartUSA site for current updates.

In good faith I did just that... The only reason I am am member here is the Smart USA site went dark some time ago and I searched for more info

When I go to the Official site I find incomplete info, missing data that is public knowledge, and road show locations and dates that are completely wrong. This is a serious concern

Should I have to peruse several sites and google search to find what was in the news letters I never received?

I have good contact info and received my confirmation that they got my $99---- instantly!

MONTHS later, I got my first News Letter as #8 then #9 then #10... So what happened to 1 through 7? Where is number 11? Will there be a lease program? What are the extended warranty tiers? How Much do they cost?

I will not be in a good mood to find out, after waiting OVER a year, that reliability issues with a first year car, a meager warranty, and late next year delivery all add up to moving on and asking for my $99 back...

All this frustration that could have easily been relieved with good information. I don't think what we are asking is unreasonable or unknown...
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