The "Boat Load" - Smart Car of America Forums : Smart Car Forum
Home News Models Alternatives
 
Smart Car of America - America's Largest Smart Fortwo Enthusiast Community   Smart Fortwo, smart car, smartcar
HOME FORUMS GALLERY

Go Back   Smart Car of America Forums : Smart Car Forum > Community > smart General Discussion


Notices

SmartCarofAmerica.com is the premier Smart Car Forum on the internet. Registered Users do not see the above ads.
» Auto Insurance
» Supporting Partner
» Recent Threads
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 09-02-2007, 06:09 AM   #1 (permalink)
Closed
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Gone my own way
Drive: Crossblade
Posts: 3,835
Thanks: 0
Thanked 15 Times in 15 Posts
The "Boat Load"

I’d like to witness a “full boat load” of smarts arriving in '08; it would be impressive. As best I can divine it, the smarts will be shipped between Zeebrugge, Belgium and Baltimore, MD by Wallenius-Wilhelmsen Line. W-W L’s “pure car carrier” fleet includes a ship with a capacity of 8,000 standard size cars – maybe 18,000 smarts, maybe more. Wow!!


Last edited by Old smart; 09-02-2007 at 06:21 AM.
Old smart is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-02-2007, 08:48 AM   #2 (permalink)
Smart A**
SCOA Club
 
lhoboy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: DC Area (Silver Spring)
Drive: Brabus
Posts: 1,141
Thanks: 0
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by fishrdnc View Post
I’d like to witness a “full boat load” of smarts arriving in '08; it would be impressive. As best I can divine it, the smarts will be shipped between Zeebrugge, Belgium and Baltimore, MD by Wallenius-Wilhelmsen Line. W-W L’s “pure car carrier” fleet includes a ship with a capacity of 8,000 standard size cars – maybe 18,000 smarts, maybe more. Wow!!
Right! I was going to suggest that the first 300 car delivery will barely fill a single cargo container.
lhoboy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-02-2007, 03:12 PM   #3 (permalink)
Closed
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Gone my own way
Drive: Crossblade
Posts: 3,835
Thanks: 0
Thanked 15 Times in 15 Posts
The Boat

Lhoboy,

I was being facetious about 18,000 plus smarts in a car carrier (PCTC). Nice thought though. There isn't a PCTC out there that has lashing gear for 18k vehicles! But, there are enough Wallenius departures out of Zeebrugge to the U.S. East Coast to accommodate whatever the smart factory can assemble for us (it is France ya
Old smart is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-02-2007, 04:23 PM   #4 (permalink)
Smart A**
SCOA Club
 
lhoboy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: DC Area (Silver Spring)
Drive: Brabus
Posts: 1,141
Thanks: 0
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by fishrdnc View Post
Lhoboy,

I was being facetious about 18,000 plus smarts in a car carrier (PCTC).
Needless to say, I was being facetious as well about the 300 Smarts in a single container, but it is amusing to think how little space will be required to ship an entire production week's worth of cars (about 400) to the states.
lhoboy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-03-2007, 09:50 PM   #5 (permalink)
Mostly Harmless
SCOA Club
 
MicroNut's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Southern Colorado
Drive: Passion
Posts: 564
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Arriving Soon...

According to informed sourced (OK, those guys on the "other" forum), the first four US spec 451s are already on route to Baltimore. VINs are:

WMEEJ31X68K027284
WMEEJ31X68K027351
WMEEJ31XX8K027529
WMEEK31XX8K027575

(EJs are coupes, EK is a cabrio).

I wouldn't get too excited, though. I suspect they might all have an early date with a large, concrete barrier!
MicroNut is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-04-2007, 03:36 AM   #6 (permalink)
Closed
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Gone my own way
Drive: Crossblade
Posts: 3,835
Thanks: 0
Thanked 15 Times in 15 Posts
I was sort of guessing that the 20-or-so Euro 451 road show vehicles might be used for the testing after they had served their purpose. The bodies, engines, and drive trains are substantially the same.
Old smart is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-04-2007, 08:14 PM   #7 (permalink)
Smart A**
SCOA Club
 
lhoboy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: DC Area (Silver Spring)
Drive: Brabus
Posts: 1,141
Thanks: 0
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by fishrdnc View Post
I was sort of guessing that the 20-or-so Euro 451 road show vehicles might be used for the testing after they had served their purpose. The bodies, engines, and drive trains are substantially the same.
I don't think the euro versions will be useful for any testing as the feds insist on testing the actual production versions.For one thing, the tranny, a significant component, will be different. It would make sense that the first four US versions would be used first for the EPA tests and then the crash tests.
lhoboy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-04-2007, 09:12 PM   #8 (permalink)
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 16
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by lhoboy View Post
Needless to say, I was being facetious as well about the 300 Smarts in a single container, but it is amusing to think how little space will be required to ship an entire production week's worth of cars (about 400) to the states.
I don't know were you got your info but the weekly production is 3365 cars per week, far more than the 400 you mentioned..
smartmx is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-04-2007, 10:01 PM   #9 (permalink)
Mostly Harmless
SCOA Club
 
MicroNut's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Southern Colorado
Drive: Passion
Posts: 564
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Testing Procedures

Quote:
Originally Posted by lhoboy View Post
I don't think the euro versions will be useful for any testing as the feds insist on testing the actual production versions.
The NHTSA and EPA don't actually test vehicles for compliance with federal standards. They define the test procedures and acceptable results: the manufacturer is responsible for conducting the tests and certifying that their vehicles meet the standards. This testing is normally carried out at the manufacturer's own facilities. The resulting certification will be specific to a particular version of the car (e.g. US-spec).

The NHTSA does conduct the NCAP (aka "Star Rating") crash test. This test is not part of the federal regulations, so it's not required in order to sell the vehicle. Nor can a car "fail" the the NCAP test, although a 1 or 2 star rating would clearly be a marketing disaster. I'm sure that smart will want the NCAP test done sooner rather than later, in the hope that a good rating will allay questions about the fortwo's safety. That may where those first four smarts are headed....

Last edited by MicroNut; 09-04-2007 at 10:03 PM.
MicroNut is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-05-2007, 04:24 AM   #10 (permalink)
Smart A**
SCOA Club
 
lhoboy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: DC Area (Silver Spring)
Drive: Brabus
Posts: 1,141
Thanks: 0
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by smartmx View Post
I don't know were you got your info but the weekly production is 3365 cars per week, far more than the 400 you mentioned..
Well, since they are producing about 20,000 vehicles for the U.S. in 2008 and there are 52 weeks in a year, that comes to 385 cars per week.

Your number may be citing their total production for global distribution.
lhoboy is offline   Reply With Quote
Today
 


This ad will not be shown if you are logged in.

Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.2

All times are GMT -7. The time now is 01:44 AM.



Smart Cars of America, LLC is not affiliated with, authorized by, associated with or have any connection with G&K, Zap, Mercedes-Benz, Mercedes-Benz AMG, Mercedes-Benz McLaren Mercedes-Benz USA, LLC, smart Canada Division, DaimlerChrysler, Chrysler LLC, DaimlerChrysler AG, Maybach, smart gmbh, a division of Mercedes Benz LLC, the manufacturer of SMART automobiles, smart USA Distributor, LLC, a division of Penske Automotive Group, Inc, the exclusive authorized U.S. importer and distributor of the smart vehicle or any of their official dealerships


Powered by vBulletin® Copyright ©2000 - 2012, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.3.2
Garage Plus vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.
Ad Management by RedTyger