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Old 01-24-2008, 12:26 PM   #11 (permalink)
 
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Well, it doesn't look like the short wheelbase is too much of a problem, frankly. Just the traction control/ESP

The cars have been out in Europe for a year, so if there is a way, it must have been discovered...

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Well, it doesn't look like the short wheelbase is too much of a problem, frankly. Just the traction control/ESP

The cars have been out in Europe for a year, so if there is a way, it must have been discovered...
just posting until I get to 3...
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Old 01-24-2008, 12:28 PM   #13 (permalink)
 
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Look at this video, at 3:15 and 3:25...

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Old 01-24-2008, 12:29 PM   #14 (permalink)
 
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Coulda predicted the safety nannies and warranty police are gonna react badly

We will soon figure out how to disable the ESP just like was done with the 450s

When the system is defaulted to "off line", you will get a warning light that ABS is non op....

More to come once real motor heads get their hands on one....

"Will void warranty if you prang it in a ditch"... WELL - DUH!


MY car... there are times when I want the system active...

There are times when I want the system disabled...

Hell an autocross weekend comes to mind...
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Old 01-24-2008, 12:32 PM   #15 (permalink)
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I'm happy with all of that as long as it's your insurance paying for the hospital bills, anyone injured in other cars, and to keep the ventilator running. But it will probably be the rest of us tax payers.
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I'm outta here!

What was that you said?

Annnnnyway, I think the danger is overstated when you compare the real hazards on the road of all the people with traction control not paying attention and multitasking when driving vs the likes of us wanting the option to turn off ESP to merge on inclines in our Smarts ;)

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Old 01-24-2008, 12:40 PM   #17 (permalink)
 
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BTW I looked at 1 today, ESP has a seperate fuse. I would suggest yanking it!

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Outta here???

I know, I just couldn't resist. If I had a nickel for every one of these "discussions" in the Corvette world I'd be rich enough to pay the dealer fees in Florida.
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As a Corvette owner and the previous owner of two Cadillacs with "Active Handling" and "Traction Control", I am compelled to add my 2 cents. In my experience, only a fool would disable the "Active Handling" feature in any sort of normal driving, as it will definitely save your butt many times during your ownership, and always allows better handling than with it turned off (with the possible exception of on a track with an expert driver - and I know we all think we are experts!). Traction Control, however, can be a real pain and even unsafe in certain situations, and the manufacturer should provide some simple "at hand" way to turn it off when necessary. All the GM cars I have had were/are equipped with a "Traction Control Off" switch. The Corvette has a "Competition" setting which disables the Traction Control and softens up the Active Handling allowing some sliding around while still being there to prevent the "big one". As others have pointed out, go the the Corvette Forum and read about all the sad guys that turned everything off. The moral of my 2 cents is: Leave both on unless someone can figure out a way to disable JUST the Traction Control on the smarties.
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"But it will probably be the rest of us tax payers."

John... I actively fight against helmet laws and the general myth you expounded above...

20,000~24,000 Smarts... max this year.... how many motor heads like me might disable the ESP?... how many hours would the few of us drive in public traffic with it disabled?

Of those. what number will have an accident injuring or killing some one?

I would propose that all of you out there that drive with your knee, have a cell phone to your face, put on lipstick, shave, read a book/newspaper yada yada yada...or even simply fail to properly maintain your tire pressure are a much greater danger.............. numerically speaking...
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