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Old 05-14-2008, 03:56 PM   #21 (permalink)
 
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http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/tec...crash.test.cnn
http://cbs2.com/consumer/smart.car.m....2.723834.html

The CNN person completely missed the point at the end and said a larger car is ALWAYS going to be safer when really what the person from iihs said was if all things were equal(safety features/design), a larger car is safer.

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Old 05-14-2008, 04:10 PM   #22 (permalink)
 
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http://www.tampabay.com/incoming/article503854.ece

Nice article and picture in the St. Petersburg Times today. It helped when the UPS truck driver asked me today what was going to happen when a fortwo gets hit by a 20 ton vehicle. I told him it would probably do about the same as the full size cars in front of the UPS depot...


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Old 05-14-2008, 04:41 PM   #23 (permalink)
 
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CNN has little credibility left these days!!!

As soon as I saw the reviews from CNN, I knew I was going to be dumber as soon as I read it.

Sure enough, that was the case.

"The Larger Vehicle is Always Going to be safer". Oh really? I guess I missed it because I didn't pay attention to Physics in high school and in college.

Why don't they roll some statistics that we can all use. How giving stats to the following situation:

1. Percentage of death in SUV due to roll overs.
2. Percentage of death in small cars when crashing head on with larger cars.

I'm guessing #1 is going to have a high number.
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Old 05-14-2008, 04:42 PM   #24 (permalink)
 
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Is the IIHS promoting the Prius?

Quote from IIHS:
People often choose very light cars for fuel economy, but "you don't have to buy the smallest, lightest car to get one that's easy on fuel consumption," Lund points out. "The Toyota Prius, for example, earns good front and side crash test ratings. It gets better fuel economy than a microcar, but it's bigger and weighs more so we would expect it would be more protective in serious crashes."

The article and video are interesting but I'm wondering why are they promoting the Prius in both? Is this a privately funded group?
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Old 05-14-2008, 04:57 PM   #25 (permalink)
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http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/080514/crash_tests_smart.html

What I found interesting in the AP story was the number of cars sold through the end of April: 6,159. That would put deliveries at over 24,000 for the year.
How do you figure that? 6000 over 4 months translates to 18000 over 12 months? Of course April sales of 2600 alone translates to over 30,000 for a 12month period!

I thought it was interesting comparing the smart's results to other small cars (or even larger cars or SUVs)


For example:
car front side rear

Yasis G G M
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http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/080514/crash_tests_smart.html

What I found interesting in the AP story was the number of cars sold through the end of April: 6,159. That would put deliveries at over 24,000 for the year.
How do you figure that? 6000 over 4 months translates to 18000 over 12 months? Of course April sales of 2600 alone translates to over 30,000 for a 12month period!

I thought it was interesting comparing the smart's results to other small cars (or even larger cars or SUVs)


For example:
car front side rear

Yasis G G M
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Old 05-14-2008, 05:02 PM   #27 (permalink)
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http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/080514/crash_tests_smart.html

What I found interesting in the AP story was the number of cars sold through the end of April: 6,159. That would put deliveries at over 24,000 for the year.
How do you figure that? 6000 over 4 months translates to 18000 over 12 months? Of course April sales of 2600 alone translates to over 30,000 for a 12month period!

I thought it was interesting comparing the smart's results to other small cars (or even larger cars or SUVs)


For example:
car : front, side, rear

Yaris: G, G, M (Yaris - w/o side air bags): G, P, M
Fit: G, G, P
Aveo: A, M, P
Accent: A, P, P
Rio: A, P, P
MINI: G, not tested, A

Smart: G, G, A

G=good, A=acceptable, M=marginal, P=poor

Take that safety naysayers!
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Depending on how you hit it, and what hits it, any door might come open on any car. In a dead t-bone side impact, I'd rather be able to get out than be trapped. Much more important, does a door open on rollover? Enjoy.......
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I think these results could be what is slowing down the site. Or just a coincidence that the site slows down the same day this great news comes out?
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If my memory hasn't failed, this is the second test series where the passenger door came open on the side impact test. This is not good, IMO. Will wait to see if/when smart and M-B address this but the test standards call for the door latches to hold during impact.

PS - merged duplicate threads
I'm betting that since the car was just parked there, rather than being driven (where the doors lock automatically for safety reasons!), the doors were left unlocked and that's why they popped open! I'd bet that if they LOCKED the doors before the impact, the doors would have remained fastened!! What'd'ya think????
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