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Old 10-08-2008, 04:32 AM   #1 (permalink)
 
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Its about time for CDI and MHD

I was reading SCOA news letter and make me think that now is the right time to request/demand to PAG and Daimler Ag to sell the smart models CDI, MHD and EV in USA.
Its incredible that Daimler is offering only one car choice to the fastest growing market in the world.
Does PAC and Daimler believed that a brand can only offer one car model only?

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Old 10-08-2008, 06:15 AM   #2 (permalink)
 
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Get Neanderthal...

(October smart car newsletter volume 37 SCOA)
PAG will eventually introduce some of the optional drives, but not before 2011 as they are contractually obligated to distribute only two models of the Smart with only one power train option (70hp).
If history repeats itself, don't expect to see an American version of the Smart ED for at least four years.
With Smart's history with the American consumer we can only expect it will be many years before the US will have the chance to drive their Smart EV lithium-ion, battery-powered Smart EV

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Old 10-08-2008, 06:28 AM   #3 (permalink)
 
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Thank Cali for no CDI

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Old 10-08-2008, 06:31 AM   #4 (permalink)
 
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I want those choices, too, but I believe that, technically, it's Penske Automotive that is importing the smart to the U.S. in cooperation with Daimler.

The MHD should be here now. I agree with you completely on that.

I'd buy the CDI diesel smart if it were available, but I don't know if it would sell well in the U.S. due to its 20 second 0-60mph time combined with the general prejudice against diesel in the U.S.

I recently sold my 2002 VW Golf TDi rather than go to prison for strangling some moron who could not understand that the savings from drastically better fuel economy was not wiped out by slightly higher per-gallon diesel fuel costs. I'd tell people that it got about 42mpg commuting vs. about 25mpg for the gasoline version and they'd say "but diesel costs more than gas!" Yes, moron, the 15% higher cost of diesel completely negates the savings you get from 65% better fuel economy. Good catch. (And these people get to vote for who's got a better economic plan. It's just sad.)

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Old 10-08-2008, 06:41 AM   #5 (permalink)
 
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It would sell well

TheSmart ForTwo cdi is the world's smallest CDI diesel. It develops a mere 40hp,thus making the Smart CDI have a fuel consumption of 70 miles per gallon. The same technology of the Smart cdi engine is used in the Mercedes-Benz E320diesel engine.

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Old 10-08-2008, 06:41 AM   #6 (permalink)
 
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If there were any chance of getting the cdi I would reserve it as I type this! PAG please get us the diesel!My reserve has a DDE of July-September 2009 and I would love to make it a cdi.
One more thing, I want to start a new thread about red touch up paint but I don't seem to be able to. Please refresh my memory.

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Old 10-08-2008, 06:46 AM   #7 (permalink)
 
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Ready for CDI, not MHD

Oh I have been ready for the CDI from the start! However, in the southern states, the MHD hybrid drive is simply not practical. Northern states have weather similar to Europe where refrigeration is not horribly necessary. In the south, having the air conditioning go away everytime you drop below 5 mph because the engine is shut off is not desirable. Who wants to arrive at their destination looking like a wilted Wheatie flake? When it's between 90 & 110 degrees F, you need continuous air conditioning!

The Honda Insight did much the same thing, shutting down at traffic lights. But there was a defeat mode, which was in continuous use in the south, at least in the hotter months. Defeated much of the benefit.

Also, with the severe cost of doing the federalization of a drive system, one needs to plan. Why spend all that money when you can't keep the product on the shelves? Better to wait for interest to wane before introducing a new engine to pique interest in a product? More shelf life. That's how marketing and product planning works.

I would suspect that the CDI will be next. The MHD would only have appeal in Canada and the more northern states. Couldn't give that puppy away in the south.

Is it financially feasible to do the whole schebang on certifiction for versions that would only sell to part of the USA? Not knowing the entire financial structure of this venture, I couldn't say. Only time will tell. God knows the start-up costs of establishing the dealer network was considerable!

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Old 10-08-2008, 07:31 AM   #8 (permalink)
 
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Ready for ALL motor types

So, we are ready for CDI (EPA?)
We are ready for Mhd with defeat mode
We will be ready for Electric Drive asap

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Old 10-08-2008, 07:58 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Don't count on the EPA (and/or Enviroment Canada) exempting or partuially exempting the smart from the current and planned diesel NOx emissions rules and standards. This horse has been so beaten to death that you could spread the bone meal on your vegetable garden.

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Old 10-08-2008, 08:05 AM   #10 (permalink)
 
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Oh I have been ready for the CDI from the start! However, in the southern states, the MHD hybrid drive is simply not practical. Northern states have weather similar to Europe where refrigeration is not horribly necessary. In the south, having the air conditioning go away everytime you drop below 5 mph because the engine is shut off is not desirable. Woody Richey
All they need to do is make the AC compressor totally electric like the Prius. In our Prius, you can sit in a parking lot in the sun with the AC on and the motor wont start until the battery runs down to a certain level. Easily 10 minutes worth of cool.

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