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Old 11-07-2007, 12:29 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Now is the time to bring the MHD smart car to the USA!

Looking through an old article:

http://www.greencarcongress.com/2005...shows_die.html

It would lead me to believe bringing the mhd smart car over could net a couple more MPG in the combined driving cycle. With all the *****ing about MPG going on you would think they would bring this technology over. I for one am surprised they are not.

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Old 11-07-2007, 03:47 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Looking through an old article:

http://www.greencarcongress.com/2005...shows_die.html

It would lead me to believe bringing the mhd smart car over could net a couple more MPG in the combined driving cycle. With all the *****ing about MPG going on you would think they would bring this technology over. I for one am surprised they are not.

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It may be an option by 2009. It seems the simplest of the alternatives to implement.

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Old 11-07-2007, 04:31 AM   #3 (permalink)
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It's really only a shut off on the engie during stop lights etc. For somebody like me that drives mostly in the country the effect would be very limited at best - but for city folk it probably would be quite worthwhile.

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Old 11-07-2007, 04:43 AM   #4 (permalink)
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I think it would take an eternity(in car years) for the extra $500 option to pay for itself. Being that it is a belt drive starter/generator will add to the maintenance costs.

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Old 11-07-2007, 12:35 PM   #5 (permalink)
 
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Personally I think the Smart car is the best way to go right now in terms of reliability and money spent. The technology of simple gas engines is proven enough so that its not a repair nightmare 10 years down the road, just like all these hybrids will be when the time comes for mantience and repair on their expensive batteries and extensive electrical systems.

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Old 11-07-2007, 01:36 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I think it would take an eternity(in car years) for the extra $500 option to pay for itself. Being that it is a belt drive starter/generator will add to the maintenance costs.
The fuel savings in town was estimated at 13%. At 10,000 miles per year with31 mpg in-city consumption, comes to 322 gallon. If the MHD saves 13% (42 gallons), that equals $147 in fuel savings per year. The $500 will pay for itself in about 3-1/2 years. Drive more than 10k/yr in town, might be worth it. Drive less than 10k, probably won't be.

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Old 11-07-2007, 02:25 PM   #7 (permalink)
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I believe that they made a solid decision to KISS during their inaugural year in order to get the bugs out of their system and distribution. This is a monumental task involving dozens of dealers. Training personnel, and making a huge investment. So far it seems to be coming together nicely other than that short strike in France. Limiting choices, options, and drivetrain makes sense. The 2/24000 is a good thing for me as by the time I take delivery on mine (1369!!!) and go the two years I am sure there will be greater choices to choose from.

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Old 11-07-2007, 02:26 PM   #8 (permalink)
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I agree I will get 2008 SMAR but once a MHD SMART or HYBRID SMART comes out I will trade mine in for it just because of the technology and savings. I plan to drive the smart everywhere so Im sure I will get my moneys worth eventually in time.

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Old 11-07-2007, 02:56 PM   #9 (permalink)
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I'll be saving enough fuel with my 70hp smart as it is. Bring me a Brabus!

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Old 11-07-2007, 06:05 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Simplest of all, Indeed, Ihoboy!

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It may be an option by 2009. It seems the simplest of the alternatives to implement.

Once they get a handle on some of these Li ion nano-titanate batteries or one of the other various Li ion nano-component type batteries and they learn how to group them into a neat battery pack similar to what theTesla has (but with more reliability than their's has---6400 cell phone batteries connected together in some fashion to form the battery pack) what a repair project that would be to replace a couple of bad ones in the middle....

I really look forward to some simple version MHD or more desireable would be a PHEV. They will come soon enough....as the gas price goes up, the likelihood of this scenario gets closer to reality..... I really don't want to have to depend on gasoline any more than I have to....and the lesser the better. (5 gal a year for my lawn mower and weed eater would be acceptable)

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