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Neonspinnazz · 10-31-2008, 12:35 AM

What would you use in a Smart?

I'd probably go synthetic, less sludge more performance.

**jwight** · 10-31-2008, 02:57 AM

Your smart comes from the factory filled with Mobil 1 and almost everyone continues with that oil or another similar synthetic. Numerous threads on this.

MPrice2984 · 10-31-2008, 06:18 AM

Just an FYI from experience. My previous car was a 2001 Hyundai Accent that went from oil change #1 to 201000 miles on nothing but Mobil 1. At 190000 miles I had to pull the oil pan to replace the dip stick tube (Walmart broke it) and there was not one bit of sludge in the pan after 7 years and all those miles.
This is the best testament to synthetics and regular oil changes I could ever make. BTW, when I sold the car it was going 2500 miles on a quart of oil and that was probably due to a small valve cover leak.

Neonspinnazz · 11-09-2008, 10:19 PM

Sludge sucks, it's the slow engine killer.

Old smart · 11-10-2008, 05:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jwight

Your smart comes from the factory filled with Mobil 1 and almost everyone continues with that oil or another similar synthetic. Numerous threads on this.

I think it is likely that the engines come out of Japan filled with Euro-grade Nippon ENEOS Premium Hyper 5W-30 (fully synthetic, API SM, ACEA A3/B3/B4), their own product from Nippon Oil Corp. (until recently, Nippon Mitsubishi Oil Corp.)

ENEOS is available in the US in five grades, including "Enhanced Fuel-saving 5W-30" (API SM, ILSAC GF-4) and "Extended High Performance 5W-40" (API SM, ACEA A3/B3).

The ACEA A3/B3 spec refers to extended oil change capability, and the ILSAC GF-4 spec refers to fuel-saving ability - they are mutually exclusive. I am firmly in the 5K-or-6mos camp, so would choose the GF-4. The 10K crowd may choose A3/B3.

N.B., Mobil 1 0W-40 is API SM and ACEA A3/B3, but not ILSAC GF-4. Mobil 1 Extended Performance 5W-30 is API SM, ACEA A1/A5/B1/B5 and ILSAC GF-4, and as above, my choice.

**jwight** · 11-10-2008, 06:05 AM

Yes, I should have said "filled with synthetic oil." PAG is on board with Mobil 1 as the "official" smart USA oil and I'm sure either the normal Mobil 1 or the extended performance version will be fine for this engine, especially with 10K service intervals.