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Old 08-20-2009, 10:06 AM   #1 (permalink)
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OMG why didn't you buy a Fit/Yaris/Aveo/Mini- theSmartisunsafeyourgonnadie

http://jalopnik.com/5341678/ii...llery/

... unless you flip it...

"The Insurance Institute for Highway Safety, never short of tests, put six mini/microcars to the roof strength test. The result? If you have to, you might be better off rolling a Smart Fortwo than flipping an Aveo.

The test involves compressing a metal plate into the corner of the roof. Withstand four times your vehicle's weight before reaching five inches of crush and you earn a "good" rating (the Smart Fortwo did 5.4 times its weight). Withstand better than 3.25 times your weight and you earn an "acceptable" grade. This is where the Honda Fit, Hyundai Accent, Mini Cooper, and Toyota yaris performed. The Aveo was a the bottom with a "marginal" rating, which means it had to do better than 2.5 times its weight.

Full details in the IIHS press release below the photos."





"Smart Fortwo rates good for roof strength; test is designed 
to assess & compare occupant protection in rollover crashes

ARLINGTON, VA - The Smart Fortwo has the strongest roof and the Chevrolet Aveo has the weakest among 2009 micro and minicars recently tested by the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety. The Smart earns the highest rating of good compared with acceptable for the Honda Fit, Hyundai Accent, Mini Cooper, and Toyota Yaris. The Aveo is rated marginal.

The rating system is based on Institute research showing that occupants in rollover crashes benefit from stronger roofs. Vehicles rated good must have roofs that are more than twice as strong as the current minimum federal safety standard requires. The ratings, products of the Institute's new roof strength testing program, add to consumer information tests that rate vehicles for front, side, and rear crashworthiness. The roof test is designed to help consumers pick vehicles that will help protect them in rollover crashes.

"We anticipate that our roof strength test will drive improved rollover crash protection the same way our frontal offset and side tests have led to better occupant protection in these kinds of crashes," says Institute president Adrian Lund.

Roofs have gotten stronger during the past few years, Institute research shows. Part of the reason is that automakers have made structural improvements to earn better front and side ratings in Institute tests. Strong A and B pillars help prevent intrusion in these types of crashes. They also help hold up the roof.

"Small cars should have an easier time with the roof strength test," Lund explains. "Their light weight means their roofs don't have to work as hard to keep the structure around the occupants intact in a rollover."
About 10,000 people a year are killed in rollovers. When vehicles roll, their roofs hit the ground, deform, and crush. Stronger roofs crush less, reducing the risk of injury from contact with the roof itself. Stronger roofs also can prevent people, especially those who aren't using safety belts, from being ejected through windows, windshields, or doors that have broken or opened because the roof deformed. Roofs that don't collapse help keep people inside vehicles as they roll.

The best protection is to keep vehicles from rolling in the first place. Electronic stability control is significantly reducing rollovers, especially fatal single-vehicle ones. When vehicles do roll, side curtain airbags help protect people. Belt use is essentiall"

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Edit: Youtube vid here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8iSZ...embedded#t=119

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Old 08-20-2009, 10:13 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I did buy a Yaris too. Just prefer to drive the smart, nicer car.

Saw the latest tests published today, something is telling me some armchair engineers will still be doubting the livability in a smart accident.....even a rollover despite the results (proof) in their face.

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Old 08-20-2009, 10:20 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Old 08-20-2009, 10:21 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Whoops.

Love this bit:

"The best protection is to keep vehicles from rolling in the first place. Electronic stability control is significantly reducing rollovers, especially fatal single-vehicle ones. When vehicles do roll, side curtain airbags help protect people. Belt use is essentiall"

Honda Fit:

http://www.edmunds.com/new/200....html

Stability Control: Not Available
Traction Control: Not Available

Smart:

http://www.edmunds.com/new/200....html

Traction Control: Standard
Stability Control: Standard

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Old 08-20-2009, 10:30 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Merge.....you have the power.

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Old 08-20-2009, 10:42 AM   #6 (permalink)
 
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Whoops.

Love this bit:

"The best protection is to keep vehicles from rolling in the first place. Electronic stability control is significantly reducing rollovers, especially fatal single-vehicle ones. When vehicles do roll, side curtain airbags help protect people. Belt use is essentiall"

Honda Fit:

http://www.edmunds.com/new/200....html

Stability Control: Not Available
Traction Control: Not Available

Smart:

http://www.edmunds.com/new/200....html

Traction Control: Standard
Stability Control: Standard

-- DavidV
From both these Edmund sites links, it looks like the Honda Fit did a lot better in the crash tests. I own both cars. The Fit is built way better then my little Smart car. I hope a meteor, doesn't fall on our Honda Fit, on the way home tonight.

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Old 08-20-2009, 11:13 AM   #8 (permalink)
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I guess so David!! Fighting the information vacuum!!

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