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Old 01-26-2009, 01:31 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Its amazing how many times when you look around the Smart doesn't make the list.

Why?

Missinformation

like here
EPA's fuel economy leaders: 2009 model year - Smart Fortwo Convertible Smart Fortwo Coupe - Los Angeles Times

Smart Fortwo Convertible

EPA Fuel Economy:
33 city/ 31 hwy

No wonder folks are always supprised at how Poor the milage is.

Oh and here is the picture that went with the artical for 2009


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Its amazing how many times when you look around the Smart doesn't make the list.

Why?

Missinformation

like here
EPA's fuel economy leaders: 2009 model year - Smart Fortwo Convertible Smart Fortwo Coupe - Los Angeles Times

Smart Fortwo Convertible

EPA Fuel Economy:
33 city/ 31 hwy

No wonder folks are always supprised at how Poor the milage is.

Oh and here is the picture that went with the artical for 2009

Post deleted. Placed foot in mouth.

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ANd you didn't delete the quote?
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I think many people believe the SMART should get even better milage.. 5th on the list for a car that is 1/2 the size? for one with a 1.0l motor (the hybrids have 1.5-1.6l motors, the TDI is a 2.0l motor). Plus the others can carry 4-5 people and luggage.

If you think about it, take a 1980s Civic CRX HF (the small 2-door hatch, with a 1.3l motor) and you have a "smart car". Small, 2 person, sub 2,000lbs etc.

Also interesting is that the current CivicHybrid and Prius both use small gas motors (1.5-1.6l with about 75-80hp). That sounds alot like their cars from the 1980s, except now they've added an electric motor to help out.

Not sure what my point is.. I'm just sayin' thats all.
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Want to get a head start on helping the industry out buy purchasing a 35 mpg car? If the standards went into effect today you would have a grand total of three vehicles to choose from, and no, the MINI Cooper isn't one of them.
The Toyota Prius, Honda Civic Hybrid and Smart Fortwo are currently the only cars with an EPA combined rating of better than 35 mpg
Looks Like smart better put some more dealer in the states and up production.

And the US automakers better start finding more markets to export to

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According to the Alliance of Automobile Manufacturers, it will cost carmakers approximately $3,000 per car in new technology to get the fleet average up to 35 mpg.

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I think many people believe the SMART should get even better milage.. 5th on the list for a car that is 1/2 the size? for one with a 1.0l motor (the hybrids have 1.5-1.6l motors, the TDI is a 2.0l motor). Plus the others can carry 4-5 people and luggage.

If you think about it, take a 1980s Civic CRX HF (the small 2-door hatch, with a 1.3l motor) and you have a "smart car". Small, 2 person, sub 2,000lbs etc.

Also interesting is that the current CivicHybrid and Prius both use small gas motors (1.5-1.6l with about 75-80hp). That sounds alot like their cars from the 1980s, except now they've added an electric motor to help out.

Not sure what my point is.. I'm just sayin' thats all.
You're comparing apples & oranges in so many different ways.
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ANd you didn't delete the quote?
Nah. Too lazy.
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Choose to Drive the Most Fuel-Efficient Cars of 2009 : Planet Green


Most Efficient Two-Seaters

1. 2009 Smart Fortwo Convertible and Smart Fortwo Coupe
These cars get 33mpg city and 41 mpg highway. They use 9. 5 barrels of petroleum a year and only emit 5.1 tons of CO2. Check out the upcoming electric drive smart fortwo.

2. Pontiac Solstice
This car gets 19 mpg city and 28 mpg highway. It uses 15.6 barrels of petrol a year and produces 8.3 tons of CO2.

3. Saturn Sky
The Saturn Sky gets 19 mpg city and 28 highway. It also consumes 15.6 barrels of petrol and produces 8.3 tons of CO2 annually.

Most Efficient Minicompact Car

2009 MINI Cooper
If you drive the manually shifting version of this car, you'll get 28mpg city and 37mpg highway. The automatic version gets 25/34 respectively. The manual version emits 5.7 tons of CO2 and burns up 10.7 barrels of petroleum annually. The automatic emits 6.3 tons and uses 11.8 barrels. Find out more about how the MINI Cooper works.
Most Efficient Subcompact Car

Toyota Yaris
This car also has two versions of transmission. The manual is better for the environment than the automatic.

The manual gets 29mpg city and 36 highway. The automatic manages a competitive 29/35. The manual version uses 10.7 barrels of petrol and injects 5.7 tons of CO2 into the atmosphere. The automatic version stays fairly competitive with 11 barrels used and 5.9 tons emitted.
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