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Old 02-16-2008, 01:18 PM   #1 (permalink)
 
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I admit it. I’m jealous. I’m jealous that people with reservation numbers well behind me are configuring their smarts already.

I’m mad. I’m mad that so many configured and then just orphan their vehicles. Thus keeping their space in line which allows anyone and everyone to just step in and pick up a smart because they’re ready and able financially and in some instances can travel to pick it up.

I’m disappointed in smart for the way the order and delivery process is being handled. It’s frustrating as Hades.

It’s easy for me to armchair quarterback though. “They should have >fill in the blank.<” The reservation fee of $99 is okay as is. But then either make it non-refundable at the time of configuration or require an additional non-refundable fee at the time of purchase. Then to avoid them turning around and making a quick profit elsewhere such as eBay, Craigslist or other auto mags have it in the contract that they must maintain ownership of the vehicle for 60 or 90 days. That could have alleviated a lot of no shows and flippers.

I can understand that the company and the dealerships are in this to make money. In the process how many potential serious buyers are they turning off in the whole process? Not only potential customers that will not purchase now because of the process but the lack of communications on top of that. Promises of how the process will be done, changes to the process and then no communication. Is it fair that a 13XX will get to configure and receive their vehicle long before a 12XX? Not to the consumers with 12XX reservations. It is for the company, the dealerships, the 13XX’s and all the ones just chomping at the bit for an orphan.

It starts as a little seed of discontent. That seed takes root and grows. Some letting it grow longer than others. The longer it grows and flourishes the more damage it can potentially do in the long run to those who benefited at the beginning.

Me? I knew the local Mercedes dealership was supposed to be a smart dealership. We had no word that it was opened. We just happened to ride by one day. Saw the bright yellow color, a single smart out front, and pulled into the parking lot. We were asked to email back with our information. It took no less than 3 emails to finally get a response back. They’re busy. We also realize that not only is it taking longer for us because of the demand in our local area but because our dealership is handling several other areas {states} as well.

Another call to the dealership and smartusa offered no additional information. They have no lists of those who have reserved smarts. The only list they get is the list of vehicles coming in and who their perspective owners are to be at some point. They can not give any kind of guesstimation as to when we can expect a configuration email or when we can expect delivery based on their current orders and deliveries. I am only told "You should get your configuration soon." There are supposedly 3 sales people and they are all very busy keeping up with their day to day sales and walk-in’s.

Where does this leave me? It leaves me researching the internet for more information only to get more frustrated and irritated. I’m not in this boat alone. Just as I want answers and facts so do many others. At the same time it’s a learning process. There were early problems with the configuration process that have since been fixed. There was a potential early mechanical problem that they are aware of and hopefully will be a non issue by the time I get mine. Early on there were questions and slow downs in getting insurance. By the time I get mine that will probably be a non-issue.

Spring is supposed to be the best time to sell an automobile. My plan is to get my configuration in March. The weather should be nice enough by then I can spend a day or two detailing my car inside and out. I can take the time to give my car a good bath and new coat of wax. I can go by the dealership for an LOF, tire rotation and inspection. Make sure to have anything that doesn’t have to be in the car out just in case. Put a “for sale” sign on her and list her on craigslist.com. I should be able to get enough to pay off my car note and put a couple thousand in the bank. Then save up a couple of months of car payments to add to that. Meanwhile shop around some of the local banks and the local credit union to see what will be the best potential loan rate I can get for my new smart. Meanwhile I’ll ride the Harley since most of the freezing weather should be past us and hopefully not too much rain.

My target date for my black/black/black smart will be before July 4th. I have my reasons. By that time the weather is getting up to triple digits and it would be nice to have air condition and not just 70 mph on a 107 degree day. {Harleys don’t have a/c.} We have a pool party every year to celebrate the 4th of July. {I’m prior service Marine, significant other is prior service Air Force and we have many prior service friends.} I’d like to finally be able to show them my smart rather than just tell them about the smart I am going to get. I also do volunteer work at the Dallas VA. I’m ready to save some money on the travel back and forth to there several times a week. While I can afford a new smart I can’t really afford two car payments at once with what my current payment is now. The more I can save between now and then just gives me that much longer so my car payment will hopefully be that much less. That would free up more money for packages I send to troops {mostly Marines} overseas. Heck. If I had saved all the money I’ve spent on packages and postage the past 3 or 4 years I could probably pay for smart outright. But I have priorities. Some say they support our troops and some actually do something about it.

Me? I feel it leaves more anticipation, disappointment, and frustration. If it’s more than 2 or 3 months from configuration to delivery then I’m shooting craps trying to figure out the best time to sell my current car and what to do if the wait time is much longer than expected. I’m disappointed that I didn’t get my configuration with the last group. I’m frustrated to see folks with much higher numbers configuring already. I'm further frustrated that the dealership and smartusa can not provide any information. I’m curious to see how long it is taking now between configuration and delivery. I’m hopeful that the local dealerships will have more information in the future. More than ever I’m still anticipating my own lil smart that I get to configure and track from manufacture to my garage. Meanwhile I’ll have to console myself with the good, bad and indifferent stories of others. I’ll have to make due with going to an open house to see the lil smarts knowing that mine is somewhere in the future. And I’ll have to hope that the dealership experience is better than the reservation and waiting experience.

Meanwhile I'll just whine, bellyache and moan here.

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yea, I didn't want to wait either, so I took an orphan. Saved me typing a huge rant.
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Old 02-16-2008, 03:02 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Angel, I couldn't agree with you more, but you won't get much sympathy on this forum. That's been my experience any way.
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Angel, I couldn't agree with you more, but you won't get much sympathy on this forum. That's been my experience any way.
well, Angel will get some sympathy from many of us...sure there's lots of whining, but many of us are in the same boat and feel for you. In any event the whole process and the internet is a double edge sword. We know too much, but we know too much! In the old days we would just be at the mercy of the dealer and would have no idea that John or Jane Doe from Anytown, USA would be getting their car 2 months faster then me! We just gotta live with it!
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I know many are in the same boat. I know many secretly giggle because they got theirs ahead of time either being in a good area or getting an orphan.

Maybe if everyone on the forums would start calling and asking for more answers we might actually get something substantial at some point?
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I know many are in the same boat.
I agree with you Angel. I've always believed they should charge some type of non-refundable deposit in order to configure a car. This would weed out a lot of people who aren't serious buyers to begin with. I also, (like everyone else on here) I think Smart should have done a better job releasing info. I don't think it was planned out too well. I too will be selling my car, but will not do so until I receive a confirmation and or configure a car. A lot of people on here seem VERY optimisic that they will be recieving their car by fall and their res. # is way, way, way past mine. I reserved back in July and figure I'll be lucky to take delivery in fall or maybe even winter. Am I the only one that thinks this way? I feel like I'm being more realistic.....When did you reserve?
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I agree with you Angel. I've always believed they should charge some type of non-refundable deposit in order to configure a car. This would weed out a lot of people who aren't serious buyers to begin with. I also, (like everyone else on here) I think Smart should have done a better job releasing info. I don't think it was planned out too well. I too will be selling my car, but will not do so until I receive a confirmation and or configure a car. A lot of people on here seem VERY optimisic that they will be recieving their car by fall and their res. # is way, way, way past mine. I reserved back in July and figure I'll be lucky to take delivery in fall or maybe even winter. Am I the only one that thinks this way? I feel like I'm being more realistic.....When did you reserve?

Reserved 20 May ~ 1235
Right now it is only speculation about the numbers being manufactured and shipped. Even smartusa doesn't know when I call them! Nor does the local dealership. It also can not be guesstimated based on the res numbers of those being configured and delivered since those are all over the board. I'm hoping to have mine by 4th of July. Though I think if things keep like they are that I'm really looking at autumn myself. {Because Dallas has larger than normal demand AND serving other states.}

I've about made up my mind that I should configure in March. If I don't then I'll follow through with selling my car. I'll be orphan hunting. I'll configure when it gets here. Then see if I get my car or an orphan first.

It's possible that someone with a nbr well past yours could get theirs first. There are already 1367's configuring. Meanwhile there are those of us with 1235's that have not. That means they reserved more than FOUR AND A HALF MONTHS after me and will get theirs before me.

Example: #1367 configures 2/15/08
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Greetings, all ** just this moment configured my Passion coupe:

Deep black
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I reserved late Sept 07 in Louisville, KY and have been faithfully following all new posts since I found this site early 08. I've been more than a little jealous of all the fun everyone is having. Soon I hope to be among your number!
So Lousiville KY who reserved in freaking Sept now gets theirs before folks in Dallas, TX that reserved in May?!?! I can understand some fancy moving around because of dealerships, supply and demand. But THIS is ridiculous.
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They should just go by reservation # in order, not by region then by order of that region. I think its more fair in actual numerical order, but oh well, it's done and nothing is going to change it.
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I admit it. I’m jealous. I’m jealous that people with reservation numbers well behind me are configuring their smarts already.

I’m mad. I’m mad that so many configured and then just orphan their vehicles. Thus keeping their space in line which allows anyone and everyone to just step in and pick up a smart because they’re ready and able financially and in some instances can travel to pick it up.

I’m disappointed in smart for the way the order and delivery process is being handled. It’s frustrating as Hades.

It’s easy for me to armchair quarterback though. “They should have >fill in the blank.<” The reservation fee of $99 is okay as is. But then either make it non-refundable at the time of configuration or require an additional non-refundable fee at the time of purchase. Then to avoid them turning around and making a quick profit elsewhere such as eBay, Craigslist or other auto mags have it in the contract that they must maintain ownership of the vehicle for 60 or 90 days. That could have alleviated a lot of no shows and flippers.

I can understand that the company and the dealerships are in this to make money. In the process how many potential serious buyers are they turning off in the whole process? Not only potential customers that will not purchase now because of the process but the lack of communications on top of that. Promises of how the process will be done, changes to the process and then no communication. Is it fair that a 13XX will get to configure and receive their vehicle long before a 12XX? Not to the consumers with 12XX reservations. It is for the company, the dealerships, the 13XX’s and all the ones just chomping at the bit for an orphan.

It starts as a little seed of discontent. That seed takes root and grows. Some letting it grow longer than others. The longer it grows and flourishes the more damage it can potentially do in the long run to those who benefited at the beginning.

Me? I knew the local Mercedes dealership was supposed to be a smart dealership. We had no word that it was opened. We just happened to ride by one day. Saw the bright yellow color, a single smart out front, and pulled into the parking lot. We were asked to email back with our information. It took no less than 3 emails to finally get a response back. They’re busy. We also realize that not only is it taking longer for us because of the demand in our local area but because our dealership is handling several other areas {states} as well.

Another call to the dealership and smartusa offered no additional information. They have no lists of those who have reserved smarts. The only list they get is the list of vehicles coming in and who their perspective owners are to be at some point. They can not give any kind of guesstimation as to when we can expect a configuration email or when we can expect delivery based on their current orders and deliveries. I am only told "You should get your configuration soon." There are supposedly 3 sales people and they are all very busy keeping up with their day to day sales and walk-in’s.

Where does this leave me? It leaves me researching the internet for more information only to get more frustrated and irritated. I’m not in this boat alone. Just as I want answers and facts so do many others. At the same time it’s a learning process. There were early problems with the configuration process that have since been fixed. There was a potential early mechanical problem that they are aware of and hopefully will be a non issue by the time I get mine. Early on there were questions and slow downs in getting insurance. By the time I get mine that will probably be a non-issue.

Spring is supposed to be the best time to sell an automobile. My plan is to get my configuration in March. The weather should be nice enough by then I can spend a day or two detailing my car inside and out. I can take the time to give my car a good bath and new coat of wax. I can go by the dealership for an LOF, tire rotation and inspection. Make sure to have anything that doesn’t have to be in the car out just in case. Put a “for sale” sign on her and list her on craigslist.com. I should be able to get enough to pay off my car note and put a couple thousand in the bank. Then save up a couple of months of car payments to add to that. Meanwhile shop around some of the local banks and the local credit union to see what will be the best potential loan rate I can get for my new smart. Meanwhile I’ll ride the Harley since most of the freezing weather should be past us and hopefully not too much rain.

My target date for my black/black/black smart will be before July 4th. I have my reasons. By that time the weather is getting up to triple digits and it would be nice to have air condition and not just 70 mph on a 107 degree day. {Harleys don’t have a/c.} We have a pool party every year to celebrate the 4th of July. {I’m prior service Marine, significant other is prior service Air Force and we have many prior service friends.} I’d like to finally be able to show them my smart rather than just tell them about the smart I am going to get. I also do volunteer work at the Dallas VA. I’m ready to save some money on the travel back and forth to there several times a week. While I can afford a new smart I can’t really afford two car payments at once with what my current payment is now. The more I can save between now and then just gives me that much longer so my car payment will hopefully be that much less. That would free up more money for packages I send to troops {mostly Marines} overseas. Heck. If I had saved all the money I’ve spent on packages and postage the past 3 or 4 years I could probably pay for smart outright. But I have priorities. Some say they support our troops and some actually do something about it.

Me? I feel it leaves more anticipation, disappointment, and frustration. If it’s more than 2 or 3 months from configuration to delivery then I’m shooting craps trying to figure out the best time to sell my current car and what to do if the wait time is much longer than expected. I’m disappointed that I didn’t get my configuration with the last group. I’m frustrated to see folks with much higher numbers configuring already. I'm further frustrated that the dealership and smartusa can not provide any information. I’m curious to see how long it is taking now between configuration and delivery. I’m hopeful that the local dealerships will have more information in the future. More than ever I’m still anticipating my own lil smart that I get to configure and track from manufacture to my garage. Meanwhile I’ll have to console myself with the good, bad and indifferent stories of others. I’ll have to make due with going to an open house to see the lil smarts knowing that mine is somewhere in the future. And I’ll have to hope that the dealership experience is better than the reservation and waiting experience.

Meanwhile I'll just whine, bellyache and moan here.
When you are forced to work long and hard for something it can bring a great deal of satisfaction once you finally get your hands on it. Frustration while you are trying, but once you achieve the goal you're never going to want to take your hands off the wheel. Hang in there.
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Thanks Smartdavis. I'm trying to be patient. Most of all I tell myself that it is happening the way it is for a reason.
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