im not trying to stir things up but is anyone here trying the hho generator? many folks dont believe this can be done and thats ok. google in hydrogen generators or look on ebay motors and you can see for yourself where this is going. even Mcain has a generator on his bus to help with fuel cost. im making a home built unit to try on my 02 ford ranger before i attempt the smart. i'll be starting mine up today to check amps and quanity. this can be very dangerous and anybody trying it please be careful and follow all the common sense rules. a friend blew up his generator, bent his overhead garage door so it cant go down, blew out his windows and lost his hearing for a week. he lite off his generator w/o ANY safetys or flashback arestors. i can understand that big dollar oil companys arent interested. theres millions of money that will be lost to them and even the govt will be losing a lot of tax money at the pumps. but economy is the name of the game. im really not interested in any flame wars but if your involved with this lets get together. heres my generator so far. the pvc keeps the plates from swinging inside. ive got my generator, bubbler, checks, hose, a few gallons of disstilled water and the KOH so far. my neighbor is a teacher and he tells me that he once did a experiment with a 9 volt and regular water, collected the gas in seperate bottles and got twice as much in 1 than the other, (h20). he isnt sure with his findings but it would make sense. and doesnt remember if pos or neg gave off the "h". what im hoping for is 1 liter hho a minute with 20 amps after 30 min. to be plumbed in right in front of the tb. this seems to be the norm.
Is this the machine that gets free hydrogen from water? A sort of perpetual motion machine where the amount of energy produced is greater than the amount that is input? If so then someone has found a way to repeal the 1st law of thermodynamics and is next in line for a Nobel prize, right behind the cold fusion guy. I hope this isn't surpressed by the oil companies like the 100mpg Fish carburater.
this is something that is happening and works. check all the posts/ads on the forums home page. im not looking on replaceing gasoline just getting better milage. for a h only car involves quite a bit more for which im not capable of. id just like to get what i can from the hho and gasoline.
and beside if bozo can get a nobel prize for the earth warming thing....
this HHO deal is so much "snake oil". the "generators" i've seen are claimed to produce one liter of "HHO" per minute. a smart running at 60mph sucks down 1000 liters of fuel/air mixture per minute. of those 1000 liters of mixture, 210 liters are O2.
do you think one liter piddled into that thousand liters would make a difference? it's just another "scam" by people who sell the plans or actual generators. this has been going on for over 50 years, first it was the 100MPG carburators.
"big oil" isn't out to get us, it's a world market and the democrats and environmentalists have kept us from drilling our own oil for the last 30 years. just the possibility of us drilling our own oil has knocked the price per barrel from $150 to $66 in a couple of months.
if any of these "MPG" secrets actually worked, don't you think detroit or germany or japan would have used them? these companies have the top research scientists and engineers on staff. some hayseed with a mr wizard science kit will not beat top automotive engineers.
you're better off buying a new exhaust and air filter...
Before you perform the tests on your Ford, I'd recommend cleaning the carbon off the pistons first. Some of the "gains" seen by the HHO generators are the same gains one would get by injecting some water into their fuel-air mix. Water is often used to "steam clean" the carbon deposits off the piston heads. Water injection systems are also used to reduce the temperature of the mix. If the HHO generator gives benefits beyond what is gained with the extra water vapor carried with the gas (and the minor amount of energy from the HHO) I'd be surprised.
If you don't have the system prepared ahead of time, any gains you see might be anecdotal. Another member on the forum was considering doing a strong design-of-experiements to truly understand the difference with and without the HHO, eliminating many of the variables that tend to make people think it's miraculous.
we used water injection back in the 70s, too clean , to lessen preignition, and to cool.
as ive been told hho is a much cleaner burning fuel with no? carbon footprint. this is all experimental but does work. today will just be the first tests im going to be doing, and please lets keep this to the positive comments only.
Any improvement is always good, for any reason... just keep detailed notes of before, during, after -- any changes, etc. If you somehow increase MPGs by 10% or 300%, you'll have ten thousand people telling you it's not possible. Which is fine, the Earth was flat once... but you'll need those notes to refute everything they throw at you, or to identify how the MPGs only seemed to improve.
For example, reduce the size of your tires -- the car runs faster, right? No, the speedometer's measuring more revolutions of the wheel.
In a debate, scientific or otherwise, the victor is often the one with the best notes.
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