Why you shouldn't Vertically Paralell Park... (Perpendicular)

[jediknight36]

Originally Posted by spdickey

Parking Court is in session...

How did you find that info out? Im trying to find local laws here.

[Old smart]

The Iowa State campus in not private property.

[spdickey]

Originally Posted by jefferios

spdickey, I knew about the Iowa laws but I didn't think they applied to the ISU parking lots.

The parking regs clear say the Iowa rules apply to the campus. Its nice they let you out of the ticket, but your ignorance of the law is not an excuse, neither is the ignorance of a campus employee.

If campus wants to designate smart parking spaces, great. But making a parking space for you alone (I imagine you are the only smart on campus right now) is not a productive use of limited space.

jediknight36 asks: How did you find that info out? Im trying to find local laws here

Google is your best friend.

[jediknight36]

Originally Posted by Old smart

The Iowa State campus in not private property.

Thats they way they are treated here. Unless its a community college, its private property.

[jediknight36]

Originally Posted by spdickey

The parking regs clear say the Iowa rules apply to the campus. Its nice they let you out of the ticket, but your ignorance of the law is not an excuse, neither is the ignorance of a campus employee.

If campus wants to designate smart parking spaces, great. But making a parking space for you alone (I imagine you are the only smart on campus right now) is not a productive use of limited space.

Well, there you go.

[burtandnancy]

I think electric smarts SHOULD be able to park any way they want...

[jediknight36]

Once they become more popular, it will change. Since motorcycle sales jumped 300% here, laws in Dallas have changed. More motorcycle parking for sure.

[RLove]

This thread was disappointing...I was expecting to see a Smart parked vertically - not perpendicularly. Perpendicular - big deal.

[jefferios]

Yea, I have parked in other lots before (company lots) and they had some parallel parking spots where I did go in perpendicular. I would have thought the ISU campus was private property.

[GetSmrt28277]

Argument:

Whereas:
http://coolice.legis.state.ia.us/Cool-ICE/default.asp?category=billinfo&service=IowaCode&ga= 82&input=321.361 (2007 edition)

321.361 ADDITIONAL PARKING REGULATIONS.
3. Local authorities may by ordinance permit angle or center
parking on any roadway under their jurisdiction.
And Whereas
Iowa Administrative Rules | Iowa Administrative Code | Regents Board [681] | Chapter 4 TRAFFIC AND PARKING AT UNIVERSITIES | 681 — 4.3 (262) General traffic.
681—4.3 (262)
General traffic. 4.3(1)
The director shall establish such rules governing the safe operation of all vehicles, including motor vehicles, motorcycles, skateboards, in-line skates, roller skates and bicycles as the director deems necessary. . . Such traffic violations may also be charged and prosecuted as violations of Iowa Code chapter 321 and Iowa Code section 262.68.
And Whereas
Iowa Administrative Rules | Iowa Administrative Code | Regents Board [681] | Chapter 4 TRAFFIC AND PARKING AT UNIVERSITIES | 681 — 4.30 (262) Parking privileges.
681—4.30 Parking privileges.
Students and employees may be granted parking privileges on the campus in accordance with these rules and upon reasonable terms and conditions as may be established by the manager
681—4.31(262)
Violations: Sanctions may be imposed for violation of these parking rules as follows:
Illegal parking (4.29(7))
Improper parking (4.29(7))
And
4.29(7)
No parking. Vehicle parking on the campus shall be restricted to designated parking facilities, and no parking shall be permitted at any other place on the campus.
a. Vehicles shall not be parked in such a manner as to block or obstruct sidewalks, crosswalks, driveways, roadways, or designated parking stalls...
e. Improper parking is parking incorrectly in designated parking areas. Improper parking includes, but is not limited to:
(1) Parking in an area restricted by signs;
(2) Parking without an appropriate permit;
(3) Parking in an area designated for persons with disabilities;
(4) Parking in a loading zone over the time limit; and
(5) Parking over a stall marker line.
And Whereas
681—4.32 (262)
Administration of rules.
The president of the university shall be responsible for the proper administration of these rules. The president is authorized to establish traffic and parking procedures not inconsistent with these rules as may be reasonably necessary and convenient for the effective administration of the duties hereunder, and any procedure so established shall be published and available for public inspection during the normal business hours in the office of the manager and the office of the board of regents, state of Iowa. The document in which such rules are published shall be known as the Department of Public Safety Parking Division Manual. The president may delegate the authority under these rules to the manager to perform any function or duty hereunder....
And Whereas,
http://www.dps.iastate.edu/pdfs/parking-manual.pdf pg 9
429(7).a Vehicles shall not be parked in such a manner at to block or obstruct sidewalks, crosswalks, driveways, roadways or designated parking stalls.
and 429(7).e Improper parking is parking incorrectly in designated parking areas. Improper parking includes, but is not limited to: (5) Parking over a stall marker line.
And

The ticketed vehicle:
1. Was appropriately registered with the University of Iowa under Iowa Administrative Rules | Iowa Administrative Code | Regents Board [681] | Chapter 4 TRAFFIC AND PARKING AT UNIVERSITIES | 681 — 4.30 (262) Parking privileges. 681—4.4 (262)
Registration. Motor vehicles and motorcycles shall be registered as follows:
4.4(1) Students. Every motor vehicle and motorcycle which is operated or maintained by a student on campus must be registered with the university and a registration decal must be displayed on the vehicle in the manner prescribed by the director. Any student who operates or maintains a motor vehicle or motorcycle on campus or who owns a vehicle which is so operated or maintained is responsible for the proper registration of such vehicle and the display of the registration decal thereon.
2. The vehicle was parked in a designated parking space on the campus that was not
· restricted by signs,
· was not a loading zone, and
· was not designated for persons with disabilities.
3. The vehicle was not parked over a stall line.
4. The University does not have a rule/ordinance for center parking nor against center parking.

The intent of parking within the confines of the space is to not block vehicle or pedestrian traffic. The standard size of a parking space is 8 feet x 16 feet to 9 feet x 18 feet.
(TimHaahs - Parking Database)

The smart car is 106.1 inches in length or 8.84 feet or 8 Feet 10.08 inches. It is reasonable to believe that the vehicle will fit in standard space.

The smart car was not sold when the regulation, 321.361 was placed into the regulations as the vehicle was sold for the first year in 2008.

The ticket was for improper parking; however the mechanism of the improper parking was not specified, including specifically violating 321.361 of the state code; the site only mentioned the improper parking or potentially 419(7)e.

Intent to not block vehicle or pedestrian traffic appears to have been met.
*****
May be time to propose changing some laws.