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The Florida "Dealer Prep" rip off

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OPEN LETTER TO FLORIDA CAR DEALERS

SUBJECT: ELIMINATE THE DEALER FEE

Dear fellow Florida car dealer, I started in the retail auto business in 1968, about 38 years ago, and I have seen a lot of changes in the way we dealers sell cars and the expectations of our customers. My remarks in this column are made sincerely and with a positive intent toward you and your customers. I am not trying to tell you how to run your business; I am suggesting a change that will reward both you and your customers.

Virtually every car dealer in Florida adds a charge to the price of the cars he sells, variously referred to as a “dealer fee”, “documentary fee”, “dealer prep fee”, etc. This extra charge is printed on your buyer’s orders and is programmed into your computers. It has been made illegal in many states including California. You charge this fee to every customer and it ranges from a few hundred dollars to nearly a thousand. Florida law requires that, if you charge a dealer fee to any customer, you must charge all customers. It also requires that you disclose in writing on the buyer’s order that this charge represents profit to the dealer. Florida law also requires that you include this fee in all advertised prices. You don’t always do this and you get around the law by limiting the number of advertised vehicles (as few as one).

The argument that I hear from most car dealers when I raise this issue is that the dealer fee is fully disclosed to the buyer on his buyer’s order. But, most car buyers are totally unaware that they are paying this. Who reads all of the voluminous paperwork associated with buying a car? The few who notice it assume it is an “official” fee like state sales tax or license and registration fee. Those few astute buyers who do question the fee are told that your dealership must charge this fee on very car, which would not be true if you were to make the decision to not charge the dealer fee to anyone. These astute buyers are also told that all other car dealers charge similar fees. This is almost true, but, as you know, my dealership does not.

The reason you charge this fee is simply to increase the cost of the car and your profit in such a manner that it is not noticed by your customer. This is just plain wrong. Dealers will admit this to me in private conversations and some will admit that they have considered eliminating the fee as I have, but are afraid of the drastic effect to their bottom line. By being able to count on an extra $895 in profit that the customer is not aware of or believes is an “official fee”, you can actually quote a price below cost and end up making a profit. Or, if the price you quote the customer does pay you a nice profit, you can increase that by several hundred dollars.

This “extra, unseen” profit is even better for you because you don’t pay your salesmen a commission on it. That’s being unfair to your employees as well as your customers. When the rare, astute buyer objects to the dealer fee, the law permits you to decrease the quoted price of the car by the amount of the dealer fee. This would have the same net effect of removing it. The salesman won’t permit this because he will lose his commission (typically 25%) on the decrease in his commissionable gross profit.

If you don’t know me, I should tell you that I don’t profess to be some “holier than thou” car dealer who was always perfect. Although, I never did anything illegal, when I look at some of my advertising and sales tactics 20+ years ago and more, I am not always proud. But, I have evolved as my customers have evolved. My customers’ expectations, level of education, and sophistication are much higher today. Your customers are no different. As I began treating my customers, and employees, better I discovered that they began treating me better. Yes, I used to charge a dealer fee ($495), and when I stopped charging it a few years ago, it was scary. But I did it because I could no longer, in good conscious, mislead my customers. Just because everybody else was doing the same thing did not make it right.

Now here is the good news. My profit per car did drop by about the amount of the dealer fee when I stopped charging it. But, when my customers realized that I was now giving them a fair shake and quoting the complete out-the-door price with no “surprises” the word spread. My volume began to rise rapidly. Sure, I was making a few hundred dollars less per car, but I was selling a lot more cars! I was, and am, selling a lot of your former customers. My bottom line is far better than it was when I was charging a dealer fee. You can do the same!

Why am I writing this letter? I’m not going to tell you that I think of myself as the new Marshall that has come to “clean up Dodge”. In fact, I am well aware that this letter is to some extent self-serving. Lots of people will read this letter to you and learn why they should buy a car from me, not you. And, I am also aware that most dealers who read this will either get angry and ignore it or not have the courage to follow my lead. But maybe you will be the exception. If you have any interest in following my lead, call me anytime. I don’t have a secretary and I don’t screen any of my phone calls. I would love to chat with you about this.

Sincerely, Earl Stewart
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Earl Stewart- you are a cool MF'er. what cars does this guy sell? i want to buy a car from him!
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Earl Stewart- you are a cool MF'er. what cars does this guy sell? i want to buy a car from him!
Toyota and Scion that I know of.
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Toyota and Scion that I know of.
Yeah, hes pretty big here. I wish he had a Smart dealership.
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Hiya Earl - I would purchase a car from you any day (if it were a smart). Way to GO and thanks for sharing, Regina
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My second choice to a smart would be some sort of Toyota (last car was a 94 Camry that I really liked). It's good to know that I have that option.
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I think smart should dictate to the Florida dealers that charge a fee either discount off the sticker of the car equal to the fee or provide an extended warrantee valued equal to the fee at no cost to the customer.

Dealers in states which regulate the fee should be upset with smart for allowing the Florida dealer rip-off to happen.
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From the Florida Dealers Association Web Site

http://www.flada.org/

"Your Dealership Service Charges (pre-delivery service fees, etc) may be CAPPED in Florida – What would happen to your revenue if your dealer fee was capped at $150 or even outlawed? A Senate Committee is looking at these options."

I'm sure the dollars and wine will be flowing in Talahassee by the dealer's lobby to keep them from cutting into their profits!
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My car arrived at the dealership today and is expected to be ready for delivery tomorrow. I called and asked about Dealer prep fees and was assured that there would be none. Or any "seat protector" or "paint sealant" or anything dealers sometimes sneak in and charge some incredible amount. Also requested NO STICKERS or dealer advertisement on the car other than possibly on the plate frame.
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My car arrived at the dealership today and is expected to be ready for delivery tomorrow. I called and asked about Dealer prep fees and was assured that there would be none. Or any "seat protector" or "paint sealant" or anything dealers sometimes sneak in and charge some incredible amount. Also requested NO STICKERS or dealer advertisement on the car other than possibly on the plate frame.

did you take delivery?
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