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Old 03-01-2009, 07:34 AM   #11 (permalink)
 
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Pepboys carry 0w40. That's where I got mine.

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If this is so, then all those folks who beleive they should change their oil for the first time within the first 1000, or 500 or 100 miles to clean it out have been wasting their time. It was already done by smart.
I am not sure if it is a waste of the time. I did 3 oil changes so far.
1. 1500 mls (more then a dozen metal shavings 1/16" - 1/8")
2. 5000 mls (few metal shavings 1/16" - 1/8")
3. 10000 mls (one metal shaving 1/8")

Here is the photo of the metal piece I removed @10000 miles oil change.
I am sure that I missed a lot of them too. And they are NOT in the filter, but in the oil I drained.





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Mine came home April of 2008 and has the sticker. I thought I had read it in the owners book too???
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If the oil is changed at the VPC, and it is done solely to get Penske’s (and MB's) racing sponsor’s product into the car it would a significant waste and expense. If the oil is changed as an initial flush, I wish we were so informed. Maybe Penske is as smart as we think, or maybe this is SOP directed by MB***. It would be interesting to know if the Euro and Canadian smarts have the sticker, or just the U.S.

My delivery oil came out the day I returned home from the dealer. I was guessing that the Mitsu engine came out of Japan filled with their own non-MB 229.5, full-synthetic, ENEOS Premium Hyper 5W-30, a product of the Mitsubishi-Nippon Oil Corp. (JP’s largest). I didn’t note any obvious “fines” in the oil basin, but in the time it took to open the filter for inspection (where there was a bit), the oil sitting cooling in the basin developed an odd, waxy, surface scum that I have never seen before – when I ran a wire across the surface it left an open channel. I’m glad that batch of whatever it was came out of the car along with what else may have come out with it. Perhaps a single early VPC flush isn’t quite enough. The filter was replaced with a Tokyo Roki/Yamaha 5DM-13440-00, an identical clone of the OEM T.R./Mitsu 1230A040 for the next 500 miles. When that filter was opened, the oil was quite dark and with very few fines.

*** The Suprex 450s were delivered with a “break-in” oil (“erstbetriebsmotorenöle”) per MB Sheet 225.10. The gassers used it for 15,000 km and the diesels for 20,000 km before changing to MB 229.5 service oil. I cannot determine if the 225.10 break-in oil was fossil, semi-synthetic, or full-synthetic – my guess is fossil.

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To say that Smart "approves Mobil 1" isn't saying much. Sounds like more of a marketing agreement between Smart and Mobil than anything else. Any oil that has the required specifications and weight range as required by the car's builder is just fine to use. One only has to look in the owner's manual to see what the oil's requirements are and then make sure that the correct oil is purchased. I use Amsoil and have for 30 years because it tests much better than most anything else out there. Just my thoughts after many years studying oil theory. Dan
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My 08 has this sticker. The dealer recommended Mobil 1 synthetic 0w-40 European formula. That what I'm using. This oil is good for 15,000 miles. Go to Mobil's web site.
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There may be warranty issues if you change the oil and not the dealership.
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Here is the photo of the metal piece I removed @10000 miles oil change.
I am sure that I missed a lot of them too. And they are NOT in the filter, but in the oil I drained.




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dude i'd be worried about the metal

i have a hard running factory turbo and i changed the oil @ 7500km and there was not any evidence of any metal at all! maybe here in aus the oil is dropped on pre delivery im not sure! but no metal at all

my scooter on the other hand, more metal than oil @ the 1k service lol

i have no sticker, may 08 build
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... i have no sticker, may 08 build
OK, Austrailia doesn't get the "smart Approves Mobil 1" sticker. Now, how about Canada, Mexico and the UK?

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Penske is on the Exxon/Mobil and Mercedes boards. Mercedes also 'recommends' Mobil 1, they have a commercial tie in in Formula 1 and so does Penske in the IRL. I started with Mobil 1 but have switched to Valvoline Synthetic 5-30w because it is all American.
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