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Old 08-07-2008, 10:59 PM   #1 (permalink)
 
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Parking Ticket in SF - VC22502A - Over 18" from curb

I just received my first parking ticket with the Smart. I decided to park perpendicular to the curb in front of my office on 8th Street in San Francisco (ironically, just about 50 feet away from the Smart Center).

Parking was much tighter than usual, so I decided to parked nose in, so my front tires were touching the curb. There was plenty of space to my left and right.

I received a ticket stating that I was in violation of VC 22502A - Over 18" from Curb. ARTICLE 7: PENALTIES

I was definitely not 18" from the curb, I was actually touching the curb. I am going to contest this ticket, but wanted to find out if others have been successful in disputing this. We are helping to save parking spaces - we shouldn't be punished for making more space for cars to park!

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This topic has been covered quite a bit already, and, sorry, I don't have the thread titles, but the clear consensus is that in most areas of the USA, vehicles, except motorcycles, are to park parallel to the curb. That's by definition in the code.

My advice would be to pay the ticket. You'll be wasting your time otherwise. Good intentions don't count.

If you want to change the code, then your good intentions can be put to use as an activist for change with your City council reps.
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you may be the first! Take it to the supreme court! We need to get that parking law "tweaked" in favor of micro cars. It would be good for everybody.
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The California regulations I've seen posted earlier were specific: the RIGHT wheels have to be parked parallel, within 18" of the curb or what can be considered as such. Except in some special cases as one ways.

Maybe it was posted in this thread:
Smarts Breaking The Law??

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It's a "right-hand parallel parking required" section. Right side wheels have to be aligned with the curb--- not exceeding 18" from said curb. So, it appears you're stuck paying...

Here's the CVC section in its entirety, FWIW, per CA DMV:

Curb Parking

22502. (a) Except as otherwise provided in this chapter every vehicle stopped or parked upon a roadway where there are adjacent curbs shall be stopped or parked with the right-hand wheels of such vehicle parallel with and within 18 inches of the right-hand curb, except that motorcycles shall be parked with at least one wheel or fender touching the right-hand curb. Where no curbs or barriers bound any roadway, right-hand parallel parking is required unless otherwise indicated.

(b) The provisions of subdivision (a) or (e) do not apply to a commercial vehicle if a variation from the requirements of subdivision (a) or (e) is reasonably necessary to accomplish the loading or unloading of merchandise or passengers on, or from, such vehicle and while anything connected with such loading, or unloading, is being executed.

This subdivision shall not be construed to permit any vehicle to stop or park upon a roadway in a direction opposite to that in which traffic normally moves upon that half of the roadway on which such vehicle is stopped or parked.

(c) Notwithstanding the provisions of subdivision (b), local authorities may, by ordinance, prohibit commercial vehicles from stopping, parking, or standing on one side of a roadway in a business district with the wheels of such vehicle more than 18 inches from the curb. The ordinance shall be effective only if signs are placed in the areas to which it is applicable clearly indicating the prohibition.

(d) This section does not apply to vehicles of a public utility when such vehicles are being used in connection with the operation, maintenance, or repair of facilities of the public utility or are being used in connection with providing public utility service.

(e) Upon a one-way roadway, vehicles may be stopped or parked as provided in subdivision (a) or with the left-hand wheels parallel to and within 18 inches of the left-hand curb, except that motorcycles, if parked on the left-hand side, shall have either one wheel or one fender touching such curb. Where no curb or barriers bound any such one-way roadway, parallel parking on either side is required unless otherwise indicated.

The provisions of this subdivision shall not apply upon the roadways of a divided highway.

Amended Ch. 448, Stats. 1971. Operative May 3, 1972.
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I was definitely not 18" from the curb, I was actually touching the curb. I am going to contest this ticket, but wanted to find out if others have been successful in disputing this. We are helping to save parking spaces - we shouldn't be punished for making more space for cars to park!
Good Luck Snowy...

I have a standing rule to dispute every parking ticket I get... seems to work about 1/2 the time!
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If you want to change the code, then your good intentions can be put to use as an activist for change with your City council reps.
The SF smarties might want to do a "cruise-in" at city hall and get some publicity about how SF could increase parking at no expense to the taxpayers by adopting a new ordinance that allows parking nose in (or tail in, which I find works better.) Even better if you can get some council members to participate.
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The SF smarties might want to do a "cruise-in" at city hall and get some publicity about how SF could increase parking at no expense to the taxpayers by adopting a new ordinance that allows parking nose in (or tail in, which I find works better.) Even better if you can get some council members to participate.
Since parking tickets are a major source of revenue for many large cities, I doubt the S.F. city council will have much incentive to change the ordinances so that fewer people will get ticketed.
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Hummer H2 width 81.2 inches, smart length 105.6 inches! Difference 24.4 inches.

Why do you think you can hang the rear of your car two feet further out than the adjoining Hummer?

Pay the ticket and park parallel next time.
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It's positively amazing how many supposedly intelligent smart owners seem to feel that the law is for someone else, and they are special. We aren't.
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