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Old 06-03-2009, 12:29 PM   #1 (permalink)
 
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Confirmed -- Brabus rears fit on the front

Just tried it. They fit. Very close though -- inner sidewall is ~3mm from lower spring perch. Fills out the fender nicely but still very slightly tucked. I'm thinking 20mm spacer at the back to match.

Opens up the option of losing the 15" fronts but keeping the Brabus look.

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that is good news to hear
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Just tried it. They fit. Very close though -- inner sidewall is ~3mm from lower spring perch. Fills out the fender nicely but still very slightly tucked. I'm thinking 20mm spacer at the back to match.

Opens up the option of losing the 15" fronts but maintaing the Brabus look.
This seems really strange. We just had to special order the European set of BRABUS 16/17" wheels for a customer. They ordered an additional set of 17" rear wheels from another vendor to install in the front and the wheels rubbed when they were driving. Double check to make sure you are not rubbing on the inside when you drive and turn.

If you need spacers we have Hub Centric/Wheel Centric 10 mill and 20 mill spacers available. They are not on our site yet, so if you are interested please give us a call directly.

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Post pictures please!!!!

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offsets must be different than my 17"s mine are only 17x7 and do not fit up front and the brabus is 17x7.5
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Yeah, didn't drive it, but from pics on here and the euro sites of big wheels don't see why they wouldn't work. This weekend I'll try to swap both sides and drive it and take some pics.
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Just tried it. They fit. Very close though -- inner sidewall is ~3mm from lower spring perch. Fills out the fender nicely but still very slightly tucked. I'm thinking 20mm spacer at the back to match.

Opens up the option of losing the 15" fronts but keeping the Brabus look.
You CAN put 17 inch wheels on both front and rears, see these Lorinsers recently installed ,for example



BUT the Lorinsers are designed for this and have different offsets, for example.
Brabus meant you to have 16s in frónt and 17s in rear.

Spacers may or may not do the job. We can make proper, TÜV approved ones available, if required.
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Just priced these at the Dealer -- rear wheels new retail each is ~$700.

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Yeah, didn't drive it, but from pics on here and the euro sites of big wheels don't see why they wouldn't work. This weekend I'll try to swap both sides and drive it and take some pics.
I'm confused (as usual). I have two sets of Brabus wheels for 451s. 4x 15s and 4x 17s. I was going to put 4x 17s on one Smart and 4x 15s on another Smart just to see what it looked like and how it drove.

So is it possible to put 4x 17s Brabus 451 wheels with or without spacers?

And of course if you've already done this then I'd love Spacers as it'd save me a lot of time trying to figure out if I liked the look or not. Otherwise I'll just put the extra set of Brabus wheels on my Passion.

Although when I first bought the Brabus the 17" rears seemed too extreme, i.e. the low profile which is why I got insurance on the wheels should they get bent. Everyone has different tastes but they seem a bit too extreme for my tastes although they're growing on me. I definitely like the better than the Passion wheels but wish there was an option in between. (not sure that makes sense to people)

Although I have wondered what the car would look and drive like with all 15s and all 17s. I like the front 15s better than I like the rears, they're less flashy YET

I also like the different size tire look in both the Passion and Brabus so I'm likely to keep it the way Brabus and Smart designed it. Plus, the stock design likely works far better in heavy rain, better gas mileage, etc. The overall width of the vehicle itself in the rear is wider than the front, just feels right for me. But I still want to see what it looks like as I have the option available to me to go either way.

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You CAN put 17 inch wheels on both front and rears, see these Lorinsers recently installed ,for example



BUT the Lorinsers are designed for this and have different offsets, for example.
Brabus meant you to have 16s in frónt and 17s in rear.

Spacers may or may not do the job. We can make proper, TÜV approved ones available, if required.
I'm fairly sure that the pictured 450 is a completely different animal with concern to what fits with a 451.

Also, I thought the 450 wheels don't fit on a 451.

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yes I put brabus 17's on a smart today it is very close to the spring perch but it will definatly work and yes we test drove it no rubbing issues at all!
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