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Old 06-20-2009, 11:22 PM   #11 (permalink)
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I read through it at least 3 times and the previous post makes about as much sense to me as the quote above. I have no idea where a thought ends and another begins so I have no way to mentally correct typing or grammar mistakes.

Huh?
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Old 06-21-2009, 10:40 AM   #12 (permalink)
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My best guess at a translation:

Some one at Cerritos Smart thought he was doing you a favor by turning of the tpms. But, he shouldn’t have done that because your new aftermarket tmps should work with the OEM system if you have the right tire pressures.
When the sensor isn’t working or turned off, you jeopardize the safety of the car. Which, if you understood what was happening, you wouldn’t like.

(Maybe I read too much James Joyce in school.....)

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Wow, mvaldes.... Wow.

I would expect that TPMS sensors do NOT have any interoperability standards. Transmitters and receivers can be tuned to deliver more complete information (pressure, temperature, precise rotation speed) or just provide a "good" or "bad" indicator.

My previous car figured when tire pressure was low by noting a degraded rotational speed. When there's less pressure, the effective tire circumference is different leading to a different rate of rotation compared to the previous known good rate, using the "good" tires for reference.

New cars are mandated to have TPMS but I don't believe the use is mandated. We went through about a century of using pneumatic tires without relying on TPMS. A manual tire pressure gauge can do wonders.
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Wow, mvaldes.... Wow.

I would expect that TPMS sensors do NOT have any interoperability standards. Transmitters and receivers can be tuned to deliver more complete information (pressure, temperature, precise rotation speed) or just provide a "good" or "bad" indicator.

My previous car figured when tire pressure was low by noting a degraded rotational speed. When there's less pressure, the effective tire circumference is different leading to a different rate of rotation compared to the previous known good rate, using the "good" tires for reference.

New cars are mandated to have TPMS but I don't believe the use is mandated. We went through about a century of using pneumatic tires without relying on TPMS. A manual tire pressure gauge can do wonders.

Lawsuits do wonders also. People will sue even if they had a picture of a flat tire prior to a blowout since it was not their fault the tire did not stay inflated for years.
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This would be a lawsuit that should NEVER make it into a courtroom. You, the driver, are solely responsible for the maintenence of the car. Not the tire manufacturer, not the auto manufacturer, not the NTSB, just you. Every year, thousands upon thousands of motorists safely navigate their cars, WITH flat tires, off the road to a safe spot. TPMS my butt.
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This would be a lawsuit that should NEVER make it into a courtroom. You, the driver, are solely responsible for the maintenence of the car. Not the tire manufacturer, not the auto manufacturer, not the NTSB, just you. Every year, thousands upon thousands of motorists safely navigate their cars, WITH flat tires, off the road to a safe spot. TPMS my butt.
The fact stands that lawsuits are why we have TPMS required now. Multible lawsuits on the Ford explorer and so many complaints the govment saw fit to get involved.
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Maybe as a nice person of cerritos smart he just turned it off the sensor coz you have after market tires......again he should not do that the tpms should work ethier after market tire nor factory as long you got the right preasure. if you have the sensor not working the performance of the car is dupardise and safety do you think you like that....
Try that again - but use punctuation and a spell checker if you don't know how to spell the words.

I did get your comment that not using tire pressure monitors will jeopardize performance and safety, but fail to understand the thought process. Even if it tells owners what the tire pressure are or that they are low or high, it still takes the driver to do something about it. For the most part these warnings are ignored just as drivers ignored the same warnings about checking tires for low pressure before. All these monitors do is make it easier for drivers who are concerned to be aware of what pressure is in their tires. I always checked pressure with gauges and still do even though the monitors are in several of my vehicles.

As I see it, as far as safety is concerned, the real value of these monitors is to warn drivers of punctures and lowering pressures as it is happening while driving. This may give enough of a warning for a driver to slow down and stop before all pressure is lost. It may also save a tire from damage. However, that also depends on the sensibilities of the driver.
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Any update from the original poster?

It sounds to me like the dealer simply cleared the TPMS codes, and I wouldn't be surprised if the light came back on soon after.

When I swapped to All Ball's winter tires and wheels (with no TPMS), it took a bit of time and driving before the warning light actually came on.
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Try that again - but use punctuation and a spell checker if you don't know how to spell the words.

I did get your comment that not using tire pressure monitors will jeopardize performance and safety, but fail to understand the thought process. Even if it tells owners what the tire pressure are or that they are low or high, it still takes the driver to do something about it. For the most part these warnings are ignored just as drivers ignored the same warnings about checking tires for low pressure before. All these monitors do is make it easier for drivers who are concerned to be aware of what pressure is in their tires. I always checked pressure with gauges and still do even though the monitors are in several of my vehicles.

As I see it, as far as safety is concerned, the real value of these monitors is to warn drivers of punctures and lowering pressures as it is happening while driving. This may give enough of a warning for a driver to slow down and stop before all pressure is lost. It may also save a tire from damage. However, that also depends on the sensibilities of the driver.
Hey, Fortow.... well been said my PC key board is bad.thanks.
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If there is a tire sensor show in your dashboard would you think what you will do first....
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