Dealer fees..

[davidmac]

charlotte,nc: 399.

[meaux61]

YEAH!! We have 43 dealerships of the 70...we only need 27 more!! Please everyone...pitch in....Tell us if you paid ZERO too!!

Meaux

[mefam4]

just looked at the last benz and the fee in 2002 was 98.80. hope this is there or lower. thanks

[smartyPantz]

Originally Posted by meaux61

Smarty panz, how many Maryland Smart dealers are there?

Thanks,

Meaux

There are 2 in Md; Annapolis and Germantown, but there are also 2 in Northern Virginia which would likely be delivering to a lot of the Maryland DC metro folks.

I suppose Annapolis will be delivering to Baltimore-area folks. I am located in the same county as Annapolis.

[jwight]

PAG has taken a "hands off" approach on these fees - distributor can't meddle in independent dealers' sales, etc. Fair enough, except many of the smart centers are owned by PAG dealers; it seems to me PAG would be able to set a policy for its own dealerships on smart sales, including dealer fees. Roger Penske owns those dealerships and, as the boss, can and should get them in line on the more exorbitant fees. So, if your smart center is Penske-owned, and you're not happy with their fees, my recommendation is to drop Mr. Penske a line at his corporate HQ and let him know how you feel. Just my .02.

[canon1753]

Does anyone know if NYS regulates doc fees?

[rrrucke]

I just called Manhattan center but they are closed. I'll try again tomorrow and Monday. Bloomington center is $50 per the Sales Manager a few moments ago over the phone.

[andersenjp]

For those on this thread disappointed with greedy dealers, my dealer (in Massachusetts) told me that smart dealerships were a hot commodity during the application process. Penske only granted dealerships to those who had the best reputations, and he made it clear to them that if they dupe their customers for any reason he will pull their dealership (whether owned by PAG or not). So if you have any complaints about any dealership out there, simply complain (loudly) to Penske and I suspect he will deal with it. For the record, the Massachusetts dealer was superb. I could not have been happier with the buying experience, and I would buy from them again in a heartbeat. I wish I could afford those Mercedes he had in his showroom though....

I think in addition to the advertised prices that have been passed around, you should expect an extra $645 for a destination charge. And the dealer might stick on another $300 or so to prep the car and take care of registering it for you etc. I found both extra charges to be reasonable.

[meaux61]

Dealer fees..

What I am talking about is anything above and beyond MSRP, tax, title, license and destination charge.
Please list fees that are not included in the above.
From Highest to lowest dealer rip-off add on profit. Most are called "doc fees", some are called prep fees....even a notary fee!!!


Tampa, Fla - 599.00
Palm Beach Fla- 595.00
Tyson's Corner, Va-584.70-various fees mysterious and otherwise
Orlando Fla- WAS 799.00 PLUS 30.50 misc fees...down to 499.00 plus 30.50 under PRESSURE !!!
Louisville KY- 499.25
Clearwater, Fla - 699.00-reduced to 499.00 UNDER PRESSURE
Ft. Lauderdale Fl (Westin)-499.00
Sarasota, Fl- 489.50
Jacksonville, Fl -479.70- the seventy cents must be for licking an envelope.
Orange Park Fl- 479.00
Chandler Az.-400.00
Atlanta, Ga- 399.00
Merriam, Ks- 399.00
Va Beach, Va- 399.00
Charlotte, NC - 399.00
Carey, NC - 398.00
Knoxville, TN -395.00
Winston Salem, NC -389.00
Alexandria, Va-349.00
Smithtown, NY -349.00
Hartford Ct- 299.00
Lindon, UT- 298.00
Denver, CO -295.00
Englewood, NJ 295.00
La Vista NE-279.00
Lynnfield, Ma- 259.00
Bedford Oh- 250.00
Columbus Ohio- 250.00
Edison NJ-249.00
Albuquerque, NM-239.50
Creve Coeur, MO. -195.00
Bloomfield Michigan - $180
Both Chicago dealerships-150.00
Indianapolis-150.00 (raised from first delivery which was 95.00)
Milwaukee, WI - 125.00
Annapolis Md. - 100.00
Germantown, Md.-99.00
Cherry Hill NJ- 95.00
Tulsa, Ok - 89.00
Pittsburgh, Pa-55.00 (plus 29.00 misc dealer fees) TOTAL of 84.00
ALL 10 Ca dealerships-55.00
Bloomington, MN- 50.00
Portland, OR-50.00
Seattle Wa.- 50.00
Manhattan, NY. -50.00
Roundrock Tx- 50.00
Dallas, TX- 50.00
Buffalo NY - 45.00
latham, NY -45.00
White Plains, NY-45.00

Please...if your dealership is not listed here and you have had a delivery, please post doc fees and other dealer markups here. If you had NO doc fee or dealer fee, please note that as well. I want to get every dealer in the USA and thier policies.
Thanks,
Meaux


I think we should send this to Mr. Penske when we are finished so that he knows how these dealers are making him look bad on his promise. I am sure glad I do not live in Florida at the moment...even with 6 inches of snow on the ground.

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[KP4 smart]

Atlanta (Buckhead), GA - $299

smart center Buckhead will be open by 15 February, but that's what they are planning to charge as a documentation fee.