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Old 09-08-2008, 04:46 PM   #1 (permalink)
 
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Fog Lights For My Orphan

Does anyone know where I can get a set of Fog lights and related parts.
My 451 orphan didn't come over with them, the dealer doesn't sell them but would help with the installation. Seems a little strange, and can't seem to find any on line,

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Old 09-08-2008, 05:12 PM   #2 (permalink)
 
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can't add fogs after building

Howdy
The info that I get from the mechanic at my smart center is that even if he adds all the right smart parts, the fogs still won't work?

something to do with the computer not recognizing that the fogs have been installed?

I have seen ONE (1) customer car that had them installed after delivery.
BUT, he used an aftermarket switch?

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Old 09-08-2008, 05:12 PM   #3 (permalink)
 
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Found the answers

Sorry for the miss thread, found all the info, just took a while! Seems we have to hard wire them ourselves. Not to Smart at all.

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Old 09-12-2008, 04:59 AM   #4 (permalink)
 
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Tgobie50,
You don't have to hardwire them in yourself as all the wiring is in the car already. You need to purchase the lights (take a look at the Brabus ones, they have dual lamps on each side) and the switch. Wrumbarger is partially correct in saying the lights still won't operate and that's because you also require a TAN code to activate them. The TAN code is generated based on your cars VIN and the dealership should be able to obtain this for you. Keep in mind that TAN codes are usually quite expensive (the one for cruise control is about $180.00). There is a HWY traffic act in Canada and I think a similar one in the US that states you can only have four(4) forward facing driving lamps on at one time. The Smart has the low beams on when the high beams are on so if you switch the fogs on you will have a total of six(6) driving beams which is unlawful. In Canada if the car was ordered with fogs then it is OK but if you try and add them later the dealership will not install the TAN code. You'll have to check with the dealerships policies in the US and see if they will or can even obtain the needed TAN code. If the dealership can't or won't obtain the TAN code for you they can be purchased elsewhere (usually the same place you purchase the fogs from) and it's just a matter of finding an independent with a SDS (Star Diagnostics System) to install the code to activate the fogies. Welcome to the world of SMART!

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Old 09-12-2008, 05:39 AM   #5 (permalink)
 
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Do you have the url to buy the Brabus fog lamps?
Gus

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Old 09-12-2008, 08:34 AM   #6 (permalink)
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The dual Brabus lamps aren't available. They aren't both fog lights, 1 pair are DRLs, the other pair are fogs.

Rod - the problem isn't with your laws, it is with smart. They physically couldn't add a fog light TAN code to any 451 smarts, not even Euro ones. They have been working on it for months now but I have just heard a rumour that the TAN code is just being released.
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Old 09-16-2008, 09:20 AM   #7 (permalink)
 
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Brabus fog lamps

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Do you have the url to buy the Brabus fog lamps?
Gus
Hey Gus, Kane says they are not available but here is the part number anyways A 451 8200 059 .

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Old 09-16-2008, 10:47 AM   #8 (permalink)
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I would be surprised if this turned out to be true as this number has an American/Canadian designation and you don't get the Brabus fortwo.
Also When you buy the standard foglights you also have to get the panels with the holes that attach to the bumper.
Considering there are 2 lights per side and the panel I would have expects 3 seperate codes.
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Old 09-16-2008, 12:14 PM   #9 (permalink)
 
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i bought some fogs state side for my 450 but the ended up with a 451 set , they came with a wiring loom that you connect the terminals to the battery and then just feed the wires through to the fog light area and then connect to the fogs and they use their own switch , no idea about the fitting though into the fog lamp area on the front of the car though ??????

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Old 09-16-2008, 12:28 PM   #10 (permalink)
 
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I installed aftermarkets. I had to fabricate the mounting piece and also drill the chassis in order to mount the fog lights. I also had to drill holes using a door handle bore drill piece to get the proper hole size for the PIAAs.

I have PIAAs working with the button modification from evilution.

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