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Old 06-23-2008, 07:26 AM   #1 (permalink)
 
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Car runs on water

I was poking around the net the other day and came across several sites that sell plans to create a system that would attach to a gas engine. The system, made from parts available at local hardware stores, generated small amounts of hydogen that was immediately added to the gas and increase gas mileage. At the risk of hearing a bunch of opinions from "if it sounds to good to be true, then it probably isn't" naysayers and people who haven't really tried this - I thought I would ask if anyone has actually order these plans and tried this tech.???

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Old 06-23-2008, 07:29 AM   #2 (permalink)
 
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Old 06-23-2008, 03:45 PM   #3 (permalink)
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No, I haven't ordered them, but I have studied a few. They just can't create enough appreciable hydrogen to make any kind of difference in gas mileage.

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I thought I would ask if anyone has actually order these plans and tried this tech.???

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Old 06-23-2008, 04:52 PM   #4 (permalink)
 
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Gotta love mythbusters

The good boys from Mythbusters - bought it - tested it - said it doesn't work!!!

This bloke supposedly did it; not necessarily with the same kit...


This bloke is dead; hmmmm.... Much conspiracy - he is Stan Meyers

Pretty sure it voids your warrenty

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Old 06-23-2008, 05:02 PM   #5 (permalink)
 
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myth busters are scams

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Old 06-24-2008, 07:16 AM   #6 (permalink)
 
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Yeah, I thought someone like would waste his time responding...........this was for flashman

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Old 06-24-2008, 07:34 AM   #7 (permalink)
 
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car runs on water

thanks imcquade for the video. I googled mythbusters for their test and came up negative. The video shows a large tank on the ground next to the dune buggy and is suggesting that the engine is running entirely on hydrogen. The links I have seen are much smaller systems and say they add hydrogen to the gas to increase mileage. hmmmmm.. here's a link...
Run Your Car on Water

I guess I look around a little more

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Old 06-24-2008, 07:37 AM   #8 (permalink)
 
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true: car runs on water

Yes, they have invented a car that runs on water, unfortunately it runs on bottled water so it costs more than gasoline. Just kidding. Actually the energy it takes to dissociate hydrogen and oxygen is exactly equal to the energy released when they are burned. Think about it: you start with water, you end with water, energy is neither created or destroyed so the equation has to balance. Hydrogen as a fuel will always just be an energy storage device, the energy to break the water molecule coming from some other source such as the power grid. That is unless a large stash of hydrogen is discovered that can be mined like oil. Then it will be a very cheap source of energy indeed. P.S. that will never happen, at least on this planet.

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Old 06-25-2008, 09:05 AM   #9 (permalink)
 
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Thanks WickedMessenger. I understand that making hydrogen uses engery and if it were done, say, in a plant it would be cost prohibitive. Kinda like ethanol. A lot of by product and costs for the end product to the point of it not being justifiable. But, as I understand this system the energy is coming from the alternator which is going to make electricity anyway while it is running. The electricity which is not kept anywhere anyhow is used to dissassociate the hydrogen in a glass jar and that hydrogen is immediately mixed with the gas and used to extend mileage. It's got me baffled a little to the point I might try it on my van (90,000 miles). I just don't want to get screwed when I find out that it was all a scam.

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Old 06-25-2008, 09:21 AM   #10 (permalink)
 
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Tanis and the Hydroxy'd Caravan John's concocted a hare-brained scheme to convert his wife's new minivan to — ready for this? — hydrogen power. Is he headed for a three-alarm inferno and divorce court with one click of the ignition? more... Original Air Date: Sun May 18 Listen to this show Listen...
http://www.cartalk.com/show_inc.html

Click and Clack the Tappit brothers ROCK! I heard this episode and as I recall the caller is the guy's wife and he is an engineer who wants to mod his wife's car pretty much just for the fun of it. She is a bit dubious about the whole idea but the guys get him on the phone and have a very informative conversation with him.

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