Don't forget about the Conservation of energy theorem Even if a machine could split the water molecule and recombine the two in combustion, the energy derived is never equal to the energy required to split the oxygen and hydrogen to begin with. There are losses in the engine from friction and heat, the losses from converting vertical motion to rotating motion, heat losses, losses associated with production of electricity in the alternator, etc. You are unfortunately always making up for the losses in energy by having to insert more energy into the equation.
But, as I understand this system the energy is coming from the alternator which is going to make electricity anyway while it is running. The electricity which is not kept anywhere anyhow is used to dissassociate the hydrogen in a glass jar and that hydrogen is immediately mixed with the gas and used to extend mileage.
There is no "unused electricity." If you turn on your headlights, your alternator needs to work a small fraction of a horsepower harder. If there's no electricity usage, the alternator is freewheeling. If you make a horsepower worth of hydrogen/oxygen, you'll be tasking the alternator a horsepower more.
Thanks WickedMessenger. I understand that making hydrogen uses engery and if it were done, say, in a plant it would be cost prohibitive. Kinda like ethanol. A lot of by product and costs for the end product to the point of it not being justifiable. But, as I understand this system the energy is coming from the alternator which is going to make electricity anyway while it is running. The electricity which is not kept anywhere anyhow is used to dissassociate the hydrogen in a glass jar and that hydrogen is immediately mixed with the gas and used to extend mileage. It's got me baffled a little to the point I might try it on my van (90,000 miles). I just don't want to get screwed when I find out that it was all a scam.
I know, it does sound 'right' doesn't it? But here's the thing: it is true that your alternator is turning when the engine is running, but if it is generating current then you are paying for it (with gas). True, it will always generate voltage when it is turning but when there is a load on that voltage it becomes more difficult to turn, meaning your engine is working harder to make the current being used. It is not correct to say the alternator wastes energy, creating current that just floats off into the ether that you are going to somehow get to use with this new hydrogen device. Think of it this way: if you have an outlet in your house with nothing plugged into it, there is 110 volts there ready to do work. But there is no current, therefore no load on the power company therefore no cost to you to have that voltage sitting there. Ok, now plug a toaster into the outlet and make some toast. You're drawing current on that voltage and the meter starts running. Same thing with your smart's alterantor. It works harder to supply a load and, as I've explained, the energy in equals the energy out with hydrogen dissociation. Now, if they could tap into wasted energy such as when you brake, that would be free energy. The Prius does that -- when you brake the car it charges up the batteries with the energy that would otherwise be wasted. Unfortunately, when you brake your smart the kinetic energy of the car is converted into heat which is dissipated into the air doing no good at all.
I bought the info. I tried it in another car but didnt have much luck. Mainly because I couldn't trick the Oxygen sensor. Anyone who wants the info message me and I will send a link.
I tinkered with HHO with my Ford Tempo until my Smart arrived. I achieved 5 mpg more(20%) by feeding a small amount of generated HHO (roughly 4cfm at a cost of 5 amps) straight into the Intake Manifold. I tricked the computer by installing a potentiometer between both the MAF and 02 sensors and the ECU. It makes for lots of monitoring and frequent adjusting of your trick signals and frequent checks/maintenance of your electrolysis generator(s), so it's definitely not for everyone.
I'll be installing the same system in my smart come sometime next year when I hit that 24,000 mile warranty voider, and will be posting my techniques and results here, so I should probably start mentally preparing now for the bombardment of insults and blasphemy that will no doubt erupt.
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Even if a machine could split the water molecule and recombine the two in combustion, the energy derived is never equal to the energy required to split the oxygen and hydrogen to begin with. There are losses in the engine from friction and heat, the losses from converting vertical motion to rotating motion, heat losses, losses associated with production of electricity in the alternator, etc. You are unfortunately always making up for the losses in energy by having to insert more energy into the equation. 
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