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Old 05-19-2008, 05:32 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Not to stray too far off topic, but if you want to see cars with zip, Google "electric dragsters." Top 1/4 mile record is 7.956 sec at 159.85 mph!

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jeepster, bring back the 440 cuda's with six packs! 3-4 mpg....you could drive from gas station to gas station , smokin' 'em the whole way!
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I think it's the same one as discussed here:

http://www.smartcarofamerica.com/for...r-arizona.html

The AZ Smart use a different battery Nano Titanate battery whereas the one we are discussing uses Lithium Ion batteries.
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I hope the first person to actually take delivery of one of these pipe dream scams posts lots of photos for all of us to enjoy. For now, I imagine an entire gallery devoted to smoke and mirrors.
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This will pay for itself at the price of gas and maintenance. website is LiV? DASH | Hybrid Technologies
Sorry, I own a Toyota Hybrid and was told time and again that the time to recover the additional cost would be 5 years. That may be correct, but I bought early to promote the technology and others are now benefiting from lower prices for a comparably equipped car.

The $35,000 smart calculations work out as follows (this assumes a high gas cost, doesn't consider the cost of charging, but it also doesn't include maintenance or battery replacement):
Assume 15,000 miles per year, cost of gas $7, mileage 35MPG.
Result is 429 gallons of gas consumed per year
Annual cost of gas would be $3,003
Cost of Electric Car Approx $35,000
Cost of Gas Car Approx 15,500
Amount to be recovered $19,500
Years to recover
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This will pay for itself at the price of gas and maintenance. website is LiV? DASH | Hybrid Technologies
Sorry, I own a Toyota Hybrid and was told time and again that the time to recover the additional cost would be 5 years. That may be correct, but I bought early to promote the technology and others are now benefiting from lower prices for a comparably equipped car.

The $35,000 smart calculations work out as follows (this assumes a high gas cost, doesn't consider the cost of charging, but it also doesn't include maintenance or battery replacement):
Assume 15,000 miles per year, cost of gas $7 (predicted in 2010), mileage 35MPG.
Result is 429 gallons of gas consumed per year
Annual cost of gas would be $3,003
Cost of Electric Car Approx $35,000
Cost of Gas Car Approx 15,500
Amount to be recovered $19,500
Years to recover 6.5 Years (11.4 years @ $4 gallon)
Again there are factors not considered, including destination charges, taxes and other fees, maintenance and insurance.
Actually, I think most of the extra expenses, if put into the equation, would probably balance out.

So, basically it will take 6.5 years to break even. Better than most greening which comes in at 12 years.

If you buy electric at these prices, you do it to be first on the block or are planning on long term. Now, if you include installing a solar home electric system and really go green, then you deserve to be respected and honored.;)
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If you buy electric at these prices, you do it to be first on the block or are planning on long term. Now, if you include installing a solar home electric system and really go green, then you deserve to be respected and honored.;)[/QUOTE]

I already have solar on my roof 5.25 kw well on its way to payoff keep in mind here we get surcharges for using more than so much electric.
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If you buy electric at these prices, you do it to be first on the block or are planning on long term. Now, if you include installing a solar home electric system and really go green, then you deserve to be respected and honored.;)
I already have solar on my roof 5.25 kw well on its way to payoff keep in mind here we get surcharges for using more than so much electric.[/quote]


"then you deserve to be respected and honored".....well, i respect you anway! congrats!
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if the electric smart were to be 20K starting, i would buy it but 35K i really dont think so.. if anything ill take out my engine and stuff 8 batteries in there and make it myself


and another thig for the people doing the yearly estimates... how much is your light bill going to go up to charge that sucker for 6 hrs???

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Your electricity bill will go up around 3 cents per mile......

And....the money you are paying will be going into an American companies pocket and the workers of that American company, not into the hands of people overseas that hate us and wish to see our demise.

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