iQ Review - Page 2

Smartdavis · 01-05-2009, 04:53 PM

er...."IQ Review"...as in Toyota IQ....it's a small car kind of like a Smart only with a purported back seat...

jonnysan · 01-05-2009, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by 24-42

I think of 'Removing fuse 11' in the same vain as 'Sanders' on a truck. IE: Even in winter you probably only want 'No ESB' in specific situations (such as below).

Why not just put an inline fuse with a SPST switch in series in the #11 fuse spot ? The switch could even be a 'long bat handle SPST momentary'.

"I tried to accelerate to get up to the speed of traffic on the highway (~ 45 mph) as it was catching up to me fast. The ESBin line prevented acceleration (even though I had good traction on the wet road) and I nearly got rear ended because i couldn't get out of my own way no matter what I did!! "

When cool heads prevail, I think the consensus is we would prefer the ESB active the majority of the time. With a momentary switch, or even a push button, handy. it should be the best of both worlds.

That's what I would do.

Donald LaFavor

BTW: The solution to having a "City - Highway" horn ( Like Citroen & Renault)
really is similar to the above method but using a SPDT switch

AS I drove home from work today, reiterating what I had said in the post, I had that same idea. Put a momentary switch on the bugger and immediately nullify it when needed. GREAT IDEA and thanks!!

John

Smartdavis · 01-05-2009, 05:30 PM

How many posts does it take to screw in a fuse? Or how many fuses does it take to turn off a post? Or how many switches does it take to turn off a thread. Or how many threads does it take make a suit? I must be bored today. I'm going to google "Toyota IQ" and try to find out if it's going to show up at the North American Auto Show next week.

smartune · 01-05-2009, 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 24-42

Why not just put an inline fuse with a SPST switch in series in the #11 fuse spot ? The switch could even be a 'long bat handle SPST momentary'.

When cool heads prevail, I think the consensus is we would prefer the ESB active the majority of the time. With a momentary switch, or even a push button, handy. it should be the best of both worlds.

That's what I would do.

Donald LaFavor

You stand a great chance of frying your ECM and whatever else electrical in the car.

-Dan

forestacademy · 01-05-2009, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Smartdavis

How many posts does it take to screw in a fuse? Or how many fuses does it take to turn off a post? Or how many switches does it take to turn off a thread. Or how many threads does it take make a suit? I must be bored today. I'm going to google "Toyota IQ" and try to find out if it's going to show up at the North American Auto Show next week.

Dont forget to look under Scion IQ
Toyota iQ coming to LA Auto Show as a Scion
Toyota iQ to become Scion for U.S. - New Scion to debut at L.A. Auto Show

Wew Wee That's Snug
http://image.motortrend.com/f/107586...rear_seats.jpg

Looks a lot like something I remember

Gremlin anyone

grwhitaker · 01-05-2009, 07:16 PM

It wasn't shown at LA and it is not listed for Detroit on the website.
Maybe the US spec. version is very low priority in the Toyota restructuring/cost cutting announced a few weeks ago. This is a difficult time to be developing a dedicated market version of an existing vehicle...even for Toyota. This would make sense with a car that is produced in a dedicated plant that max's out at 100,000 annual units total; with the increasingly unfavorable yen vs. dollar currency exchange; rapidly declining [higher % drops than GM and Ford for Dec 08] sales figures; and the challenge of marketing a smaller than a Yaris, Corolla and any Scion car at a higher price point.

grwhitaker · 01-05-2009, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by jwight

Oh, just stop. At least you said "today", thus giving a nod to the fact there will be a US spec iQ at some point. I suppose we could do away with all DOT requirements and start importing EU spec Trabants and Yugos - NOT! Just as happy to have my 100% US spec fortwo with all its safety features "required" by our regulations. Of course, if somebody wants to stick it to the man, they can always disconnect the airbags, pull fuse #11 and never put on the seatbelt - that'll show 'em!

+ one here...

SuperGeek · 01-05-2009, 07:24 PM

I hope Toyota realizes that those seats will only fit small children, and children tend to grow. My opinion is that Smart chose wisely to just use that space for cargo and make the two seats really big vs. sacrificing comfort for everyone.

On the bright side, mom can tell the little cretins, "don't make me come back there" and mean it... without unhooking her seat belt.

24-42 · 01-05-2009, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by smartune

You stand a great chance of frying your ECM and whatever else electrical in the car.

-Dan

I would say about the same degree of chance as the mod being the cause of a flat tire or maybe roof cracking.

Would you care to detail your wild speculation ?

Many owners have been removing their fuse #11 for years without any damage to ECM ("or whatever else electrical").

Unless you can substantiate your theorem, you have proven your lack of electrical knowledge.

RLove · 01-05-2009, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by SuperGeek

I hope Toyota realizes that those seats will only fit small children, and children tend to grow. My opinion is that Smart chose wisely to just use that space for cargo and make the two seats really big vs. sacrificing comfort for everyone.

On the bright side, mom can tell the little cretins, "don't make me come back there" and mean it... without unhooking her seat belt.

The seats pictured are not from an iQ, and the iQ seats (front and rear) accommodate me at 6'2" with no problem. It's tight in the back, and I wouldn't want to go far back there, but it's nice to have the option to seat more than two if necessary.