Non-Fossil Fuel smarts (separated from "diesel")

[John_H]

Electric? I want fuel cell.

[forestacademy]

Originally Posted by John_H

Electric? I want fuel cell.

Fuel Cell? I want magic Pixies

Interesting how no one ever asked for CNG like T Boon Pickens sugests

[Old smart]

CNG is fine, but the tankage has to be quite large and heavy, and it is not conveniently shaped to squeeze into the available space. Cng was used on the U.S. Morgan Plus 8s after they could no longer keep the original 4.0 Rover V8 engines EPA certified. They looked better than they performed on gas.

[ssppxyz]

Originally Posted by Old smart

CNG is fine, but the tankage has to be quite large and heavy, and it is not conveniently shaped to squeeze into the available space. Cng was used on the U.S. Morgan Plus 8s after they could no longer keep the original 4.0 Rover V8 engines EPA certified. They looked better than they performed on gas.

Back in the early '90s, a neighbor of mine had one of those CNG Morgans.

The CNG parts were sitting in his garage. Apparently, they had converted them to CNG for importation/sale and (someone) sold a kit to convert them back to gasoline (legality being upon the owner/converter).

He performed the conversion back to CNG for CA smog compliance verification, then back to gas after passing.

It was a beautiful car, but I don't know how it performed. He was older and drove it gently.

[Bill Marshall]

Originally Posted by Old smart

CNG is fine, but the tankage has to be quite large and heavy, and it is not conveniently shaped to squeeze into the available space. Cng was used on the U.S. Morgan Plus 8s after they could no longer keep the original 4.0 Rover V8 engines EPA certified. They looked better than they performed on gas.

Seems to work fine on the Honda Civic.

[jwight]

CNG has less energy per unit than gasoline, just like ethanol. Burns cleaner than gas (good) but delivers less mileage (not good.) Performance suffers; we had a Ford F350 4WD truck at Wright-Patt used for aircraft crash response that could run on either gas or CNG. When you switched to CNG, it was like somebody had thrown an anchor out the back.

[Neonspinnazz]

Originally Posted by Jordon

... Right now, the hot word to slap on a car is hybrid, that is what the public likes to hear.

Great, let me go peel the "Hybrid Synergy Drive" emblem off of a Prius then slap it onto the Envoy.

That'll grab plenty of attention...

[forestacademy]

Originally Posted by Neonspinnazz

Great, let me go peel the "Hybrid Synergy Drive" emblem off of a Prius then slap it onto the Envoy.

That'll grab plenty of attention...

It will add 20k onto the price

[Alchemy R]

LOL^^

I was contemplating making a sticker that says "not a" in really small letters and "Hybrid" in the normal size car badge size for my Diesel Jeeps...

[Old smart]

Originally Posted by ssppxyz

... The CNG parts were sitting in his garage. Apparently, they had converted them to CNG for importation/sale and (someone) sold a kit to convert them back to gasoline (legality being upon the owner/converter). ...

The whys and wherefores of it were that the Mog was 49-state legal with the Rover engine on gasoline, but not CA-legal. Some outfit in CA converted them to "CA Alternate Fuel vehicles," placing all of the removed gasoline components in the boot of the car.