Boss Bass 600 Mounting?

[speedracer]

just ordered mine (bass600). hey Dovienya have you tried if it will fit under the dash?

[dovienya]

I have not yet, as I wouldn't have any way to mount it currently, and no garage to fabricate anything in. My "garage" is a parking lot w condo rules that working on cars is a no-no. However, next I'm at the car working on this, i'll see if it would physically fit. If it does, and you mount yours under your dash, I'd love pics/details on the mounting.

Still haven't found the damn sub plug. Turns out my torx set stops a smidge too small for the seat bolts, so I think I'm in a holding pattern until I can run to the hardware store.

[dovienya]

Speedracer: Sorry, I still havent been back at the car with the sub to see what sort of room there is behind the dash for it. Just from looking I think there'd be room for it, although the unit is a little longer than I'd though, so I should probably actually try holding it up there to be sure. I think I'll end up spending some more time trying to do this install tonight, so I'll be sure to let you know if it looks like there would be room.

Also, to anyone else trying to figure out the same things I have been working on: Assuming you are willing to trust this info, I think I have found good news regarding the power wiring for this sub. I did some research on the actual draw of this unit to help figure out if the power and ground wires under the seat would potentially be sufficient. Not surprisingly, it turns out that this small unit is popular with the Mini crowd. Here's a link to a thread in their forums. Posts #92 through #97 directly are referencing this sub.

MINI COOPER :: North American Motoring - Boss Audio BASS600 8-inch low profile amplified subwoofer

It sounds to me like the under seat wiring should be good enough, given the results these people have gotten. I'm hoping to get that stock plug found tonight and get this speaker wired up. If anyone has any arguments against doing this, I'd love to hear them before I get everything hooked in.

Am likely driving to the beach this weekend. I'm excited that I may actually have some pretty decent bass in time for the trip.

[dovienya]

Okay, haven't done much more on this, but did check fitment under the dash. Not likely to happen. Horizontally it wouldn't fit at all. Vertically it hung down further than I think anyone would like. It's a great fit behind the driver's seat. I did finally get the seat off and find the plug I'd been looking for. Maybe tomorrow I'll try to actually get some wires hooked up.

[The Rigger]

Originally Posted by Carl242

I had a look at the back of the car and I can't really figure out an easy way to lift the carpet behind the back seat. Its sort of pinned down just above the engine compartment.

If you pop out the two interior rear side panels and the plastic keeper plug on the driver's side forward of the engine lid, it's a lot easier.

[dovienya]

Just as an update to my own install, I'm suspecting I have a bum unit. I left a message for Boss support to call me back, but here's where I'm at:

I've got the red/blue from the under seat plug hooked up to the power lead on the sub. The black is hooked up to 'remote on'. Brown is hooked up to the ground on the sub.

I disconnected all the audio plugs, as my issue is that I'm getting no power/signs of life from the sub.

With things turned on I have 12+ volts to power, and 12+ volts to remote on at the sub. Swapped out the fuse with no effect. Anyone have any other thoughts before I end up sending this back to amazon?

I really wish I'd benched this thing prior to hooking up the whole loom of wires. Spent a couple hours getting it all soldered up and happy. Ah well.

[HGB]

I went to HD and bought #8 cable and ran that to the battery terminal with a fuse close to the battery. The fuse I bought at a car stereo place.
I also used #8 to the ground.
There is nothing under the driver's seat that will power the subwoofer. These little mickey mouse wires can power a standard Italian made smart issue sub but not the Bass 600. Under the seat is the black wire that turns on the woofer when the radio is turned on and also the output to feed the signal to the woofer. Don't know the color scheme for those though at this moment.
It is tricky to make a clean connection on the woofer with the overly stiff stranded #8 wire. It is also wise to follow up tightening the wires going into the woofer several times initially for the first two weeks.

[dovienya]

Originally Posted by HGB

I went to HD and bought #8 cable and ran that to the battery terminal with a fuse close to the battery. The fuse I bought at a car stereo place.
I also used #8 to the ground.
There is nothing under the driver's seat that will power the subwoofer. These little mickey mouse wires can power a standard Italian made smart issue sub but not the Bass 600. Under the seat is the black wire that turns on the woofer when the radio is turned on and also the output to feed the signal to the woofer. Don't know the color scheme for those though at this moment.
It is tricky to make a clean connection on the woofer with the overly stiff stranded #8 wire. It is also wise to follow up tightening the wires going into the woofer several times initially for the first two weeks.

I have 8 gauge cabling that I had been figuring I was going to have to end up running, but after doing some research I have come to the conclusion it shouldnt be needed. The bass 600 doesnt seem to have much draw, despite them sticking a "600" on it. As cited by my link above to the Cooper forums (unsurprisingly, another car that the bass 600 is popular with), an electrical guy over there did some good testing on the unit and the consensus is that even the mickey mouse wires to the rear aux/lighter socket of the Mini are adequate. The Bass 600 looks like it only draws around 8 amps when loaded. Which I realize isnt too surprising, given that the fuse it uses is a 15 amp!

The cute thing about this seems to me that if this really did do 600 watt, that would be about 50 amps given 12 volts. That would need at least 10 gauge wire, and obviously that 15 amp fuse on the sub wouldnt cut it.

That 15 amp fuse should blow at anything over about 180 watts on the Bass 600. I suspect there is significant number padding going on.

Anyways, that's my take on it. I'd be curious for the input of a more electronically oriented mind however. John_H, that is probably your cue. What are your thoughts?

Either way, I turned out to have a bum unit. Even connected directly to a battery (spare motorcycle battery, since it was easier for me to get to) I get no signs of life out of it. Amazon should be shipping out my replacement tomorrow.

[dovienya]

Bahahaha, it's alive!

The replacement unit arrived from Amazon today, and I got it installed. I like it! I havent played with the settings very much yet, but I'm very happy with the addition it has made to the sound. I also feel like it pulled the soundstage back a bit, despite really not being able to feel where the base is coming from.

At the moment I'm wired in using only the wires from the factory sub plug. Ground and power included. As per my posts above, my research and a little math backs up my belief that this *should* be adequate, but I'll certainly be paying attention to my fuses and will let people know if any problems develop.

For now however, I'm quite happy.

[speedracer]

just started to install the Infinity 6020cs finished one side taking a break. I tried the BOOM MATS did not let the speaker breath at all(sounded like ****). I install the tweeters in the pilar using the ball swivel parts (heavy mods)looks clean and they can be pointed alittle to the seats.
Yeah under the dash seem ok but even if it goes under you still would have to remove it all to get to the battery or tire stuff alot of fabricating to make something work.
Any pic of the boss600 behind the seat?