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Can you really tow with a smart car? What is the weight capacity you can tow?

Or is this towing forum for cars smart cars being towed?
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The Manual says no towing, but Curt makes hitches for the car and many of us do tow.

We basically look at it this way, If a motorcycle can tow it the smart sure can. And then some. This car has more than enough stopping power. And I don't have any problem keeping up with freeway speeds with my rig.

Still get around 35mpg and I can fit in a standard parking space
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That's interesting and very true comparing it to a motorcycle. I might just have to talk to my boss about that, it opens up some potential for our show.

You still also get 35 mpg while towing; what is a common mpg for everyday driving without a load?

I've also seen some very small pop up campers behind motorcycles, something like that would be a good idea to still take a trip with gas prices on the rise.

Speaking of towing, has anyone hauled a smart car in the back of a big toy hauler camper?
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Can you really tow with a smart car? What is the weight capacity you can tow?

Or is this towing forum for cars smart cars being towed?
If you look in my garage you'll see the hitch-based tow bar on the front of my 09 Passion and on the back of my RV.

Here is a link to the 2009 owners manual: http://owners.smartusa.com/userfiles...2009,%20V2.pdf

PDF page 192 is devoted to flat towing. The car weighs 1,800 pounds. My RV's hitch is rated for 5,000 pounds. Most states (not all) do not require supplemental brakes on the towed vehicle/trailer if it weighs less than 2,000 pounds.

My RV is a Ford E450 with a 6.8L triton V10 gas vampire. I can't feel the car behind me when I'm towing it - not even when braking. The car is so small that I can't see it unless I'm turning - and because of that I'm planning on adding a camera to the back of the coach just so that I can have eyes on the car.

The only recommendation that I have is to install a manual battery disconnect (also shown in my garage) instead of an automatic battery disconnect.

I spoke with the folks at Roadmaster in Vancouver, WA about recommended tow bars. Along with the Falcon 2 (not the all-terrain version), they recommended installing their automatic battery disconnect. I was at smart center Portland at the time that I was talking to the folks at Roadmaster and the staff overheard my conversation and poo poo'd it - saying that they've seen cars with fried electronics because of the automatic battery disconnect. I have also read anecdotal reports of anti-lock brakes having engaged on cars with the automatic battery disconnect. How true is this? I don't know. I played it safe and had the dealer install their manual battery disconnect. I then when online and bought several spare keys for the battery disconnect.
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That's interesting and very true comparing it to a motorcycle. I might just have to talk to my boss about that, it opens up some potential for our show.

You still also get 35 mpg while towing; what is a common mpg for everyday driving without a load?
as Tracked on Fuelly we average 40 MPG without the trailer.

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I've also seen some very small pop up campers behind motorcycles, something like that would be a good idea to still take a trip with gas prices on the rise.

A few here have used the Time out camper. If I didn't have kids my wife an I would be all over it.


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Clown. Last trip got 38 mpg out of a tank full while pulling a TimeOut camper.

Unit weighs less than 500 lbs loaded. A2Jack

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Yes you can tow, legally no you can't. The 451 was not homologated in any country to tow any weight. However, the car is rated for 50kg in the boot so a small trailer should be OK.

I don't think the bike towing argument is a starter as bikes have wet clutches don't they?

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Quite a few of the larger bikes use the wet clutch setup, Had that on my Goldwing. As long as you keep the trailer weight (loaded) to a minimum, you should be OK and if you use a hitch bolted to the frame. I wouldn't use one bolted to the tow hook attachments as they are just in the aluminum bumper and probably not strong enough for any long term pulling.

My Goldwing was a bit longer than a smart, 1200cc, and got worse gas milage. Plus I got tired of getting wet.
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Can you really tow with a smart car? What is the weight capacity you can tow?

Or is this towing forum for cars smart cars being towed?
Keep in mind, weight distribution will be paramount, and no "Smokey and the Bandit" driving stunts.
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